If Delta dies, Skywest = ?

[utahpilot]

Over half of their flying is associated with Delta, and they have too many 50 seat RJs and no mainline sized jets.
Bye Bye--General Lee

are you sure? only if you're talking SkyWest INC.

from SkyWest.com

Average number of daily scheduled departures-SkyWest Airlines

United: 1,062 Delta: 472 Total: 1,534

 

[General Lee]

are you sure? only if you're talking SkyWest INC.

from SkyWest.com

Average number of daily scheduled departures-SkyWest Airlines

United: 1,062 Delta: 472 Total: 1,534

Does that now include ASA? Didn't think so, and now you have twice the exposure to Delta. Before you bought ASA I would have believed those numbers, but not now. Good try. Owning ASA has now become a large liability for SkyWest. And, their pilots are ALPA, so probably no flying during a possible DL strike. I hope it doesn't happen.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[blackbox]

And, I bet the wheels are turning in St George, asking why they added more exposure to DL by purchasing ASA.



Bye Bye--General Lee

I dont think they expected this from the DAL pilot group. When United filed for BK, skywest grew like gangbusters. I'm sure they expected to same with Delta when they filed. it was a gamble they took hopig it would pay off from past experiece.

 

[Mookie]

Genral,

When is your Md-88 upgrade class? You must be really hitting the books getting ready.

good luck,
Mookie

 

[General Lee]

Genral,

When is your Md-88 upgrade class? You must be really hitting the books getting ready.

good luck,
Mookie

I put that on hold(waiting for the next bid, if there is one), just like you should for your CR7 transition. Good luck to you too.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

["GO AROUND"]

are you sure? only if you're talking SkyWest INC.

from SkyWest.com

Average number of daily scheduled departures-SkyWest Airlines

United: 1,062 Delta: 472 Total: 1,534

The numbers I saw for ASA on delta.com was over 900 daily departures. So UAL=1062 DAL=1372 if you combine them.

 

[N2264J]

And, their pilots are ALPA, so probably no flying during a possible DL strike.

Delta continued to fly during the Comair strike.

Why do you think ASA will stop flying during a Delta strike just because they're ALPA?

I don't think the NMB has released them yet. Will the ASA pilots walk with the mainline pilots in a sympathy strike? Since they're not striking the same company anymore, would that count as the same class and craft?

I seriously doubt ALPA will allow the Delta pilots to strike anyway. It would kill one of their biggest dues cash cows and ALPA simply can not allow that to happen.

 

[blueridge71]

Would DALPA strike with us? I doubt it. We probably wouldn't have a sympathy strike, but we may have a strike of own that runs concurrently. Our MEC just passed a note confidence in management resolution and authorized a strike committee.

If DAL went ch. 7, there would be a lot of capacity in ASA airplanes and gates available in ATL for someone. I'm not sure that we would be idle for long. Airtran might make a deal in the absence of their largest competitor. ASA might even fly under their own colors. Who knows?

Having said that, I'd really like to see DAL and DALPA work things out. It would be better for everyone.

 

[General Lee]

Delta continued to fly during the Comair strike.

Why do you think ASA will stop flying during a Delta strike just because they're ALPA?

I don't think the NMB has released them yet. Will the ASA pilots walk with the mainline pilots in a sympathy strike? Since they're not striking the same company anymore, would that count as the same class and craft?

I seriously doubt ALPA will allow the Delta pilots to strike anyway. It would kill one of their biggest dues cash cows and ALPA simply can not allow that to happen.

What I said was that Delta didn't cover any of Comair's flying. (on another post) That is what I meant.

And, good ole Duane Worthless was at our very large, successful rally, so you never know.........He probably wants to see us (at least one of us) to stand up and stop the downward spiral. We are a different group now, now that 2300 loyalists retired within the last year. I hope they negotiate something fair before then, though. High stakes poker.......

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[atlcrashpad]

Would DALPA strike with us? I doubt it. We probably wouldn't have a sympathy strike, but we may have a strike of own that runs concurrently. Our MEC just passed a note confidence in management resolution and authorized a strike committee.

If DAL went ch. 7, there would be a lot of capacity in ASA airplanes and gates available in ATL for someone. I'm not sure that we would be idle for long. Airtran might make a deal in the absence of their largest competitor. ASA might even fly under their own colors. Who knows?

Having said that, I'd really like to see DAL and DALPA work things out. It would be better for everyone.

Blueridge71,

If Big D goes "Strike" we don't fly "Struck" work. That is how you support your fellow airline pilot and keeps you off "Scab" list. Besides it lets MGT know that there is no option other than sit and negotiate.

 

[CFIT]

As said before the General gets wood just thinking of problems for SkyWest. However, management has stategies in place for the demise of either of it's code shares that are discussed at almost every investers conference. I wont go into specifics but the structure is there in the event of a collapse of either Delta or United, it wont be painless but certainly not lethal.

 

[ASADriver]

Blueridge71,

If Big D goes "Strike" we don't fly "Struck" work. That is how you support your fellow airline pilot and keeps you off "Scab" list. Besides it lets MGT know that there is no option other than sit and negotiate.

CMR went on strike and DAL didn't stop flying. Why should we stop flying if Delta goes on strike? Rember, they said we are separate. They said there wasn't operational integration. They made their bed, now they can sleep in it.

As for the "scab list", don't you find it just a tad ironic that it was an Eastern scab who posted the three ASA MEC resolutions, regarding the strike vote and no confidence vote, on the ALPA board? He is an ALPA committee chairman and he crossed a real line. How about the CAL MEC Chairman, he is an Eastern scab also. Save me the ALPA BS - I have had my fill!

I will fly any aircraft that is operated by ASA during any DAL strike - we a separate and they don't give a darn about me.

 

[blueridge71]

Blueridge71,

If Big D goes "Strike" we don't fly "Struck" work. That is how you support your fellow airline pilot and keeps you off "Scab" list. Besides it lets MGT know that there is no option other than sit and negotiate.

That's true in theory. In reality, Delta's schedule changes almost from day to day and their routes are layered with different companies flying the same routes. How would we know what is struck work?

Also, I wasn't here then, but I've heard that ASA operated Comair airplanes on Comair routes during that strike. I don't know if it's true, but that has been going around.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Blueridge:

ASA took delivery of a couple of RJ's while Comair was out. You can tell these airplanes because of the different materials used in the entry flooring and other small details that Comair ordered different from ASA. When Comair came back to work and had their growth spurt they took several of the airplanes in line for ASA.

ASA did not pick up any flying from Comair during their strike. Management never asked us to and we made it clear that we were not going to fly Comair's struck work.

 

[ASADriver]

Blueridge:

ASA did not pick up any flying from Comair during their strike. Management never asked us to and we made it clear that we were not going to fly Comair's struck work.

Fins, I know you are smarter than that. ASA, DAL, and ACA flew CMR passengers during the strike. Example, a "CMR" passenger in CAK was supposed to fly from CAK to CVG to SAT. CMR strikes, and the passenger is routed from CAK to ATL to SAT, possibly on a CMR aircraft. We flew CMR passengers in CMR aircraft. We just didn't fly them on the same city pairs - ie we just didn't fly them through CVG. Management won that strike, and I am really not sure why we think we can win one.