IBT NJASAP vote

[fischman]

NJA pilots.

IT IS TIME TO VOTE NOW!!!

Did you know either orginization has an "out clause?"

If IBT feels there is not enough participation they can get out of the agreement. If that is the case IBT can send it to the NMB. THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THE NMB CAN LEAVE US WITHOUT A UNION FOR UP TO 2 YEARS. Obviously that is not good, and the Company doesn't want this either.

IT IS TIME TO VOTE NOW!!!

IT IS TIME TO VOTE NOW!!!

IT IS TIME TO VOTE NOW!!!

 

[HiSpeedFlyer]

Bump Bump Bump

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Amazing what people will do to self sabotage

If IBT feels there is not enough participation they can get out of the agreement. If that is the case IBT can send it to the NMB. THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THE NMB CAN LEAVE US WITHOUT A UNION FOR UP TO 2 YEARS.

What a bunch of freaking dumb@$$es...
Parade around here that they allegedly have the best gig going, then oust the union that got them there.
I can't wait to laugh at the ones bashing everywhere else, when you do yourselves in. Feel sorry for the poor guys who were just happy to get an acceptable contract, only to have a bunch of power-tripping idiots (who likely just don't want to go back to the line) create more drama when it should have finally been settled.
I'm sure mgt loves this! They knew this wouldn't last long, and with fuel the way it is...their puppets will get you guys with NO UNION and anything goes. Genius (not).
Let the FUD begin from both sides...

 

[Pervis]

VOR, don't start drooling yet for the demise of the union. IBT has done nothing all along except take 25% of our dues money. IBT had no idea about IBB till after the deal was signed.

The pilots at NJA and leadership in NJASAP are the union. Not Hoffa and his cronies. With nearly 3000 members strong we now feel we can better use the nearly 1.5 million bucks currently sent to the IBT annually to represent US, not a quarterly trucker magazine.

Maybe if you waited for the facts and saw the results, you wouldn't look like such an idiot like B19 and others.

 

[barnyard]

Wrong.

Many of the same Strong Union folks who helped create 1108 have created NJASAP, after resigning their posts at 1108, of course.

 

[fischman]

Politics aside.

NJA pilots! VOTE!!!

I don't care WHO you vote for. VOTE!!!


Tell your buddies to vote.

Tell your partner to vote.

Tell people in the crew lounge to vote.

Tell guys on the ramp to vote.

VOTE!!!!!!!!!

 

[fischman]

What a bunch of freaking dumb@$$es...
Parade around here that they allegedly have the best gig going, then oust the union that got them there.
I can't wait to laugh at the ones bashing everywhere else, when you do yourselves in. Feel sorry for the poor guys who were just happy to get an acceptable contract, only to have a bunch of power-tripping idiots (who likely just don't want to go back to the line) create more drama when it should have finally been settled.
I'm sure mgt loves this! They knew this wouldn't last long, and with fuel the way it is...their puppets will get you guys with NO UNION and anything goes. Genius (not).
Let the FUD begin from both sides...

You are completely wrong about EVERYTHING you just posted.

All you just did was point the dumba$$ finger at yourself.

 

[B19 Flyer]

You are completely wrong about EVERYTHING you just posted.

All you just did was point the dumba$$ finger at yourself.

He's right on the money. (Excuse the pun)

They wanted representation, they brought in 1108, then 1108 finished the contract that the previous union couldn't get done and the greedy NJASAP leadership wants to cut 1108 out of the dues action and basically not pay them for their efforts and help.

Greedy, greedy, greedy.

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

I voted for NJASAP on the first day of the vote, and I'm a new hire. I did some research and talked to several people and to me it seems like a no brainer. I think I saw a figure that at least 1200 pilots had already voted by the 15th or so? I'm sure the procastinators will vote soon enough. If there are 1800 pilots out there that are not in the loop then something needs to be done about it other than posts on FI. Is there a way for the union to send out a mass email to everybodys BB to remind them?

 

[brokeflyer]

What a bunch of freaking dumb@$$es...

wanna compare W2's?


yeah thats what i thought you meant.

now just keep quiet and don't comment about NJ.

 

[brokeflyer]

He's right on the money. (Excuse the pun)

They wanted representation, they brought in 1108, then 1108 finished the contract that the previous union couldn't get done and the greedy NJASAP leadership wants to cut 1108 out of the dues action and basically not pay them for their efforts and help.

Greedy, greedy, greedy.

you don't work here so you don't anything about it.

You need to keep quiet too......you already made yourself a fcking idiot.....lol

 

[CA1900]

They wanted representation, they brought in 1108...

Wrong again, as usual. Who do you think 1108 was when it was created? The pilots didn't "bring in" anybody.

NJA pilots stepped up to the plate and created 1108. NJA pilots did all the legwork, not the IBT. They took all the risk, and provided all the funding. And now those very same NJA pilots who were in leadership positions with 1108 are helping us break from IBT.

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the greedy NJASAP leadership wants to cut 1108 out of the dues action...

No, we want to cut IBT out of the dues action, because we're getting no return on our investment. 1108 has always been an independent union; we've just been paying a cut of our money to IBT for the privilege of doing it all ourselves anyway.

...and basically not pay them for their efforts and help.

Those "efforts" were well paid -- in advance. We owe IBT nothing. Their current "efforts" include supporting political causes, such as GA user fees, that run directly counter to our interests.

 

[B19 Flyer]

wanna compare W2's?


yeah thats what i thought you meant.

now just keep quiet and don't comment about NJ.

Rather compare paychecks.

That little deduction block, the one where your union dues are automatically deducted? Mine's empty. Your's isn't.

The other block that says net pay? Makes me smile as much as yours does you.

 

[B19 Flyer]

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Wrong again, as usual. Who do you think 1108 was when it was created? The pilots didn't "bring in" anybody.

NJA pilots stepped up to the plate and created 1108. NJA pilots did all the legwork, not the IBT. They took all the risk, and provided all the funding. And now those very same NJA pilots who were in leadership positions with 1108 are helping us break from IBT.




No, we want to cut IBT out of the dues action, because we're getting no return on our investment. 1108 has always been an independent union; we've just been paying a cut of our money to IBT for the privilege of doing it all ourselves anyway.

...and basically not pay them for their efforts and help.

Those "efforts" were well paid -- in advance. We owe IBT nothing. Their current "efforts" include supporting political causes, such as GA user fees, that run directly counter to our interests.

Blah, blah blah. Just like every other union contract. Never satisfied and always looking for the cash.

 

[CA1900]

Blah, blah blah.

Thank you for that insightful, intelligent reply.

Just like every other union contract. Never satisfied and always looking for the cash.

Yes, I come to work to make money. You? Oh, that's right:

The other block that says net pay? Makes me smile as much as yours does you.

Always looking for the cash.