IBT Airline Division/Local 357 Scorecard

[ChinaClipper]

Lowering the bar is replacing Mainline jobs with RJ's.....ring a bell? BTW What have you gotten for 6 years of IBT dues? NOTHING! BB and Co has you on the ropes for at least another 2-3 years. IBT National has a HUGE crisis on their hands...ALL SELF-INFLICTED.....nothing like 700 people in you house waiting to slit your throat at the first opportunity they can get....a COLOSSAL failure for National to COMPLETELY UNDERESTIMATE the anger from the F9 group. The internal strife will make it IMPOSSIBLE to get anything moving forward! The Native RAH Guys will pay the price, by not getting a contract for a LONG TIME! Keep the lawyers busy, IBT National, the F9 guys are lying in wait....and the misery of the RAH "contract" continues.....

 

[Bluestreak]

Lowering the bar is replacing Mainline jobs with RJ's.....ring a bell? BTW What have you gotten for 6 years of IBT dues? NOTHING! BB and Co has you on the ropes for at least another 2-3 years. IBT National has a HUGE crisis on their hands...ALL SELF-INFLICTED.....nothing like 700 people in you house waiting to slit your throat at the first opportunity they can get....a COLOSSAL failure for National to COMPLETELY UNDERESTIMATE the anger from the F9 group. The internal strife will make it IMPOSSIBLE to get anything moving forward! The Native RAH Guys will pay the price, by not getting a contract for a LONG TIME! Keep the lawyers busy, IBT National, the F9 guys are lying in wait....and the misery of the RAH "contract" continues.....

Uh,wait..What's that in your profile ? "CL65" ? "E145" ? Is that how YOU "Raise the bar" ? The IBT's case is rock solid.Investco will be bankrupt when the dust settles.Buh-bye ,now,buh-bye...

 

[SizzleChest]

Lowering the bar is replacing Mainline jobs with RJ's.....ring a bell? BTW What have you gotten for 6 years of IBT dues? NOTHING! BB and Co has you on the ropes for at least another 2-3 years. IBT National has a HUGE crisis on their hands...ALL SELF-INFLICTED.....nothing like 700 people in you house waiting to slit your throat at the first opportunity they can get....a COLOSSAL failure for National to COMPLETELY UNDERESTIMATE the anger from the F9 group. The internal strife will make it IMPOSSIBLE to get anything moving forward! The Native RAH Guys will pay the price, by not getting a contract for a LONG TIME! Keep the lawyers busy, IBT National, the F9 guys are lying in wait....and the misery of the RAH "contract" continues.....

"lower the bar" & "replacing jobs with RJs"??? Really? This from a guy with 1900 and ERJ types/experience? Ahhhhhhhh .....?

For 6 years we got a SLI result that most mirrored the IBT proposal, the recent rejection of RAHs request to expedite a DC ruling, an informational picket during a Mediation meeting, rejection of FAPA & RPC, a cool lanyard, etc...... more than I can say has happened in the past around here but all quite positive and enlightening. As far as 700 pilots..... just more crybaby antics from chronologically grown adults..... and F9 was worried about RJ guys being immature....

 

[Bolo]

"lower the bar" & "replacing jobs with RJs"??? Really? This from a guy with 1900 and ERJ types/experience? Ahhhhhhhh .....?

For 6 years we got a SLI result that most mirrored the IBT proposal, the recent rejection of RAHs request to expedite a DC ruling, an informational picket during a Mediation meeting, rejection of FAPA & RPC, a cool lanyard, etc...... more than I can say has happened in the past around here but all quite positive and enlightening. As far as 700 pilots..... just more crybaby antics from chronologically grown adults..... and F9 was worried about RJ guys being immature....

You really are a D-BAG! I truly mean that.
We will see who has the last laugh tough guy. Keep preaching IBT and how good your contract is. How close are you guys/gals on getting that record breaking contract? I cannot wait to see it.
In fraternity, One VOICE, One Contract, One Union! NOT!
Please wear your we are ONE Button.
BOZO!

 

[Bluestreak]

You really are a D-BAG! I truly mean that.
We will see who has the last laugh tough guy. Keep preaching IBT and how good your contract is. How close are you guys/gals on getting that record breaking contract? I cannot wait to see it.
In fraternity, One VOICE, One Contract, One Union! NOT!
Please wear your we are ONE Button.
BOZO!

Still bitter over the union vote,huh ? Or maybe it was the STS ruling ? The SLI ? I hear BB applied to change Frontier's code from F9 to CH7.

 

[USMC319]

Sadly, most of the Frontier pilots would rather BB take F9 into Bankruptcy protection than to have to have any association with the RAH pilot group or the IBT. Anyone that has read anything Sizzle Chest, Bluestreak, and their ilk certainly understand why.

Having been forced into IBT representation at Frontier for the past 2 months, I can already say with certainty that it's the worst airline union that I've been associated with in my lifetime. I think I would rather be on the front end of the next hiring wave elsewhere than stay here and be associated with either the IBT and the likes of the Republic pilots you see posting on this site. And I will definitely not apply to any IBT represented airline for the rest of my career.

 

[Grey Ghost]

Its unbelieveable how much you guys get worked up over a ********************ing union? They all suck! You guys get all defensive like somebody is making a personal attack about your child! What is wrong with you people? :nuts:

 

[Bolo]

Still bitter over the union vote,huh ? Or maybe it was the STS ruling ? The SLI ? I hear BB applied to change Frontier's code from F9 to CH7.

1% club, keep talking! Enough said!

 

[Grey Ghost]

DJ: Do you expect that seniority of Frontier pilots in a combined work force with Southwest will be a major sticking point. Stemmler. It’s the biggest issue. Seniority is life in aviation. There as many formulas for seniority as there have been mergers. The best-case scenario is that they phase out Frontier’s Airbuses and retrain Frontier pilots to fly 737s (the Boeing plane in the Southwest fleet), resulting in no net work-force reduction. The worst case is that Southwest ignores Frontier’s seniority and our pilots are put at the back of the list.

 

[Grey Ghost]

The deal with Republic has people in Denver celebrating because it prevented Frontier from being sold to Southwest Airlines, which would have likely resulted in thousands of job cuts. Republic, which is a contract flier for other airlines, will likely keep more Frontier jobs because it doesn’t currently employ ticket handlers or do route planning.
The Frontier pilots were key to the outcome because they balked at a proposal by Southwest’s pilots union that would have put the Frontier pilots at the bottom of the seniority list of the combined companies. Southwest was unwilling to negotiate and handed the keys to Republic.