I need copies of CBAs from other carriers

[kommutrdog]

I'm currently enjoying the fruits of the "direct relationship" at bluejet and am doing a little research on my own. I would like to obtain copies of current CBAs from other US carriers. Alaska, American, United, Southwest, etc...

If anyone wouldn't mind pointing me to a place where I could download a PDF of said documents it would be greatly appreciated.

Please PM me if you have any input/advice.

Thank you in advance.

 

[Shrek]

Try APC.

 

[sniper]

I'm currently enjoying the fruits of the "direct relationship" at bluejet and am doing a little research on my own. I would like to obtain copies of current CBAs from other US carriers. Alaska, American, United, Southwest, etc...

If anyone wouldn't mind pointing me to a place where I could download a PDF of said documents it would be greatly appreciated.

Please PM me if you have any input/advice.

Thank you in advance.[/QUO





ALPA has them all...are you an ALPA member? if not try to be one

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

I'm currently enjoying the fruits of the "direct relationship" at bluejet and am doing a little research on my own. I would like to obtain copies of current CBAs from other US carriers. Alaska, American, United, Southwest, etc...

If anyone wouldn't mind pointing me to a place where I could download a PDF of said documents it would be greatly appreciated.

Please PM me if you have any input/advice.

Thank you in advance.

Can you explain comment "fruits of the "direct relationship""?

Are you in management?

KBB

 

[intooclose]

He sounds sarcastic....but maybe that's just me. The "..." around direct relationship seems to be the giveaway.

 

[kommutrdog]

Not an ALPA member which is what my little homework assignment is about, actually. Trying to do some comparison shopping.

Yes, I was being sarcastic. The "direct relationship" is just modern day PR parlance for "union busting". Walmart uses the same playbook. I fly for the walmart of the airline industry, sad to say. Blue shirts. Blue vests at Walmart. Coincidence?

We are trying to get more momentum for bringing ALPA on the property. Hopefully, third time's a charm.

 

[CesnaCaptn]

ALPA has them all...are you an ALPA member? if not try to be one

I'm an ALPA member. How do I get copies of other airlines' CBAs? Do I just call my rep and he'll email them to me?

 

[StarChecker]

Not an ALPA member which is what my little homework assignment is about, actually. Trying to do some comparison shopping.

Email your Compensation and Work Rules Committee. They have most of the ALPA CBA's of our "peers".


Hopefully soon we'll be pattern bargaining for our own CBA.

 

[Nevets]

I have a document produced by ALPA after the UAL TA that compares all the contracts. It's in my Dropbox but I don't know how to upload it here.

 

[jonjuan]

Not an ALPA member which is what my little homework assignment is about, actually. Trying to do some comparison shopping.

Yes, I was being sarcastic. The "direct relationship" is just modern day PR parlance for "union busting". Walmart uses the same playbook. I fly for the walmart of the airline industry, sad to say. Blue shirts. Blue vests at Walmart. Coincidence?

We are trying to get more momentum for bringing ALPA on the property. Hopefully, third time's a charm.

I thought sw or spirit was the walmart of the airline industry? If it's so bad there, why not simply vote a union in? Isn't it just 51% to say yes? Or is management smarter than the 51%?

 

[kommutrdog]

I thought sw or spirit was the walmart of the airline industry? If it's so bad there, why not simply vote a union in? Isn't it just 51% to say yes? Or is management smarter than the 51%?

Right now it's kind of a poker game. Cards are being collected but it's not a formal drive and we want to make damn sure that this time we have the votes, unlike the past two union attempts.

Plus there is still the whole propaganda thing. This company has on retainer PR firms that spout happy-horse***t propaganda on a daily basis. We're afraid there might still be too many koolaid drinkers on the property.

 

[Ski-N-Fly]

I thought sw or spirit was the walmart of the airline industry? If it's so bad there, why not simply vote a union in? Isn't it just 51% to say yes? Or is management smarter than the 51%?

Fortunately many have finally seen the light. The third time will be the charm. Send in a card. Tell your friends to send in a card.

 

[Remington]

Why fund ALPA when you could start an in-house union?

 

[Ski-N-Fly]

Why fund ALPA when you could start an in-house union?

Reference Pandora's Box.

 

[kommutrdog]

Why fund ALPA when you could start an in-house union?

If management "offers" to "help" us form an in-house union it will be nothing more than a trojan horse. Beware of executives bearing gifts to its employees.

Also, an in-house union will be weak and way underfunded. CBAs mean nothing without a legitimate way of enforcing them.