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Conservative point of view? Come to Florida...where the state has no money for anything. Sometimes taxes help, guys. Especially with schools. Some of the highest-tax states in this country also offer the best jobs - California, Minnesota, New York, Massachusetts - so low taxes isn't always the answer. Big-gov't "liberal" spending isn't either, so neither of these views is necessarily correct.

Fact is that spending more than you take in - regardless of whether or not you do so because of reckless spending or reckless tax cuts - hurts the economy by raising interest rates and inflating the currency. Inflation is an indirect tax (more money in circulation without any increase in value of the currency or demand means less value per unit of currency), just as direct taxation is a direct tax (duh).

So, if you think that Bush's present fiscal policy is sound, let me refer you to a GOVERNMENT report that refutes your opinion - http://www.gao.gov/special.pubs/longterm/challenge.html. Note the line where it says "current fiscal policy is unsustainable over the long term." Cutting taxes is great...if it's accompanied by matching spending cuts. Bush and his cronies have had no part of that, doling out tax cuts to the likes of Disney (in Jeb's state), GM, and a host of others in a $135 billion corporate tax break bill last year. Add in plenty of pork spending - much of it in so-called "homeland security" and juicy defense contracts (see Boeing's tanker-lease proposal) - and you have a simply wonderful Republican, big-government fiscal platform about which all of you supply-siders can be proud. It seems that Republicans have taken to the big-government policies they for so long detested. They can benefit from them :)

As for the decreased funding to the states, looks like 2005 ain't gonna be too hot, either:

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/d53ea206-7...uid=7fc8f3dc-d258-11d8-b661-00000e2511c8.html

I'm content to watch Bush sink these next 4 years. He and his buddies have gotten too big for their britches. Next stop is taking away your labor rights as union members. Have fun.
 
DIRT said:
Tina Fey,

You are either in college and if that is the case stop wasting time posting here and go hook up with some frat boy, or you work at Mcdonalds because based on the ideas reflected in your post you do not have a real job. When you grow up and get a real job you will understand the conservative view until then stay beside the campfire, passing around a fattie, wearing your hemp sandels singing "yellow submarine" and stop posting your liberal drivel here it is getting annoying.

Dirt

DIRT,

Ah yes, yet another knee jerk reactionary equating growing up with conservatism.....as if conservatism has an exclusive claim to being "grown up and responsible". Now that is drivel. News for you junior; There are liberal folks that are grown up and have real jobs. In one sense you're correct in that as I "grow up" and as I am working my "real job", I understand, more and more, the "conservative view" enough that I tend to vote against it.
:D
 
Right on Jimpilot. These whining libs are a joke GET OVER IT WE WON. I just watched the State Of The Union Speech and Thank God That weasle Kerry got blown out or we would all be out of work.
 
BornAgain,

It was not a knee jerk reaction I happen to agree with almost all liberal ideas but the truth is here on earth where everyone else lives they just don't work.

Dirt
 
These whining libs are a joke GET OVER IT WE WON. I just watched the State Of The Union Speech and Thank God That weasle Kerry got blown out or we would all be out of work

I can tell you're a real genius. Thank God you can vote, or else we'd all be in real trouble.

Unabashed partisans are unamerican.
 
Sorry to hear of the lay off, but I would gaurantee(sp?) that they will be begging you to come back to work once all the rain water turns into weeds/brush in the warm Caleefornia sunshine. I would say by mid summer there is going to be some wicked fires going.

If nothing else check with Istre Corp/DynCorp(now CMC) they are still using the OV-10's in Columbia.

Good luck
Jobear
 
Would this job lead help you? I found it at www.aviationemploymentboard.com, under forestry:CA.

U.S. Department of Agriculture
Forest Service
Region 5, Regional Office
1323 Club Drive, Vallejo, California 94592

Recruitment Notice No.: 05-R5-RO5FA-00285DP (AMENDED OPENING/CLOSING
DATES)
----------------------------------------------------------------------

**********************************************************************
*The Forest Service has Legislative authority to recruit and fill *
*Permanent (Career-Conditional) and Term Appointments under the USDA *
*Demonstration Project. Under this project, interested individuals *
*need not have present or previous status as a Federal employee in *
*order to apply. *
**********************************************************************

This position is being advertised concurrently under the Agency’s Merit Promotion
Plan, Vacancy Announcement 05-R5-RO5FA-00285G, as Airplane Pilot,
GS-2181-09/11/12.

If applying to more than one announcement, applicants must submit a separate
application for each announcement. Failure to do so may result in your
application not being considered. Duplication of application and/or materials is
the responsibility of the applicant.

TITLE: Airplane Pilot

SERIES/GRADE: GS-2181-09/11/12

OPENING DATE: 01/10/2005 CLOSING DATE: 02/10/2005

LOCATION: Region 5, Fire, Fuels and Aviation Management Staff, Regional Aviation
Group

Starting Salary:
$45,485.00 per year (GS-09)
$55,033.00 per year (GS-11)
$65,960.00 per year (GS-12)

Bargaining Unit Status: This position is included in the bargaining unit.

Availability of Forest Service-Affiliated Day Care Facilities: None

Availability of Government Housing: None

Promotion Potential: The full performance for this position is GS-12.
Applicant(s) selected below the full performance level are eligible for promotion
to the next higher grade level without further competition. Promotion will be
subject to incumbent meeting all Office of Personnel Management requirements,
performing work satisfactorily, demonstrating the ability to perform the work at
the higher level, and recommendation by the supervisor.

Description of Duties: This position is located in Region 5, Fire and Aviation
Management Staff, Aviation Group with a duty station located in Lancaster,
California. The primary purpose of this position is to provide leadplane, air
transportation and other pilot services in the suppression of wildland fires
within California, and occasionally throughout the United States.

Serves as a pilot-in-command of light, multi-engine airplanes in accomplishing
fire leadplane missions. Evaluates retardant requirements, leads retardant
delivery aircraft in and out of the hazardous drop zones, and evaluates retardant
effectiveness. Scouts and reports fire progress and behavior, and assesses
effectiveness of suppression efforts. Assists in formulating plans to control the
fire while operating aircraft within the incident environment.

As pilot-in-command of both twin and single engine aircraft, transports
passengers and cargo, including Regional Forester and staff members, and other
Regional employees. Transports fire suppression and overhead personnel throughout
the United States. Pilots aircraft during instrument meterological conditions.
Lands and takes off from marginal back country airstrips in remote areas.
Operates aircraft day and night, often in adverse weather conditions, over
uncharted courses where navigation aids are not always available.

Acts as pilot-in-command or technical representative for specialized aviation
missions such as photography, aerial detection, seeding, spraying, dropping of
smokejumpers or cargo, aerial surveys, etc.

Makes preflight checks of flying weather conditions at points of departure, along
the route and at destination. Maintains accurate logs of flights, including
passengers, cargo, landing points and hours of use, fuel and oil consumed, hours
worked and all related administrative services. Services own aircraft with gas
and oil, and makes minor operating adjustments. May be directed to perform first
and second echelon maintenance (care and cleaning with minor inspection and
repair) of aircraft as directed by supervisor.

Inspects aircraft of contractors and cooperators and serves as check pilot when
evaluating pilots of such aircraft. Inspects airtanker bases and airtanker pilot
qualifications to prescribed standards.

Participates in investigating accidents and incidents involving aircraft engaged
in performing missions for the Forest Service.

Prepares technical studies, papers, graphs, contracts, supply agreements, and
other administrative assignments when directed.

May also be assigned to perform as a Regional Check Airman, conducting instrument
and aircraft-type proficiency checks for Region 5 pilots using prescribed
standards and procedures. Recommends flight training and maneuvers to the
Regional Aviation Safety and Training Officer or Regional Aviation Officer.
Participates in the development of standardized flying training programs for
Forest Service pilots. Maintains a training library. Evaluates and orders new
training materials, e.g., lesson plans, slides, cassette tapes, etc.

FIREFIGHTING QUALIFICATIONS: This is a primary firefighter position under the
provisions of 5.U.S.C. 8336(c)(CSRS) and 5 U.S.C. 8412(d)(FERS). Persons making
their first entry under these authorities cannot be selected if over age 40.
Persons already in covered secondary positions or persons with previous approved
service who apply for a primary position cannot be considered if their age at
reentry into the primary position exceeds 40 years after subtracting their years
of service in covered positions.

The burden is on the applicant to prove they previously served in approved
positions (letter from previous agencies, ruling from the Office of Personnel
Management (OPM), official position description, etc.) citing primary firefighter
coverage. This proof must be submitted with your application.

The maximum entry age for pilots is 40; therefore, applicants must not have
reached their 40th birthday at the time of appointment.

DRUG TESTING: Applicant selected for this position will be required to submit to
an urinalysis to screen for illegal drug use prior to appointment. Appointment to
the position will be contingent upon a negative drug test result. Incumbent of
this position will be required to submit to urinalysis to screen for illegal drug
use on an ongoing basis after appointment, as directed.

Appointment Information: This is a permanent full time career-conditional
appointment. Selectee will be eligible for health and life insurance, annual
(vacation) and sick leave and will be covered under the Federal Employees
Retirement System.

Who can apply: Any U.S. citizen 18 years or older.

Current or former Federal employees certified as surplus or displaced, or
identified in affected positions in the commuting area of the vacancy and who are
covered under the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) Career Transition
Assistance Program (CTAP) or the Interagency Career Transition Assistance Program
(ICTAP) may be entitled to receive special priority selection if determined to be
eligible and well-qualified.

Qualification Requirements: For the GS-12, one year of specialized experience
equivalent to at least the GS-11 level. For the GS-11, one year of specialized
experience equivalent to at least the GS-09 level. For the GS-09, one year of
specialized experience equivalent to at least the GS-07 level. Specialized
experience is experience which is in or related to the line of work of the
position to be filled and which has equipped the applicant with the specific
knowledge, skills and abilities to successfully perform the duties of the
position. The Office of Personnel Management's Qualification Standards Handbook
can be found in any Federal government personnel office or website
http://www.opm.gov/qualifications/index.htm
 
Applicants who have not occupied a position in this series should provide

sufficient information to enable Human Resources Specialists to properly evaluate

their application.



Applicants must meet the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) qualification

standards requirements by the closing date of this announcement.



Flight Experience Requirements: Applicants must demonstrate possession of the

knowledge and skills required for the work by meeting certain minimum flight hour

requirements, including recency of flight experience. The categories in which

candidates are required to demonstrate proficiency relate to the general

knowledge and skills to pilot the aircraft, and the specific knowledge and skills

related to the particular position being filled.



The following are the Forest Service minimum flight hour requirements:



All Airplanes Flying Hours



GS-12 GS-11 GS-09

Total flight time 1500 1500 1200

Total pilot-in-command 1200 500 250



Pilot-In-Command as follows: Flying Hours



GS-12 GS-11 GS-09

Category and class to be flown 200

Multi-engine Airplane 500 500 100

Cross country 500

Operations in typical terrain 200

Night flying 100 100

Instrument – in flight 50

Instrument - actual/simulated 75 50

Preceding 12 months 100 100 100

Preceding 60 days 10

IFR/Night 100



Applicants need to submit the appropriate paperwork with their application to

document flight time. Prior to appointment, selectee may be required to provide

log book entries to verify required flight hours.
 
DIRT said:
BornAgain,

It was not a knee jerk reaction I happen to agree with almost all liberal ideas but the truth is here on earth where everyone else lives they just don't work.

Dirt

"they just don't work" seems to be an all encompassing banner phrase meant to obfuscate intricacies that happen to matter. The real truth is that liberalism keeps conservatism in check and vice versa.

It just so happens that most of the time conservatives are wrong:D
 
English, Thanks alot man. I'm looking into that. I got a job spraying, but its gonna kill me when summer rolls around and I dont have an airplane.....


Preciate the help
 

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