Hurray for the 1108, The RIFed are back !

[skyismyoffice]

Remember that in the absence of a binding contract that which has been given can just as easily be taken away.

Agreed.

I ain't over till the fat contract is signed!

We are now owned by HIG, an investment group that buys, grows then SELLS! Without a strong contract we don't have squat.

 

[xpdriver]

Apparently Kenn Ricci was very instrumental in putting all the RIF pilots back on the line. Our MEC rocks but I have to say that Mr. Ricci seems to deserve some credit as well. FLOPs may actually become a place where Union and Management can actually work side by side. I would have never thunk it.

Put down the kool-aid and step away from the frig...

 

[dime line]

Put down the kool-aid and step away from the frig...

sky is the last guy to drink the koolaid, but uncle kenn does get a smigen of credit. I will give the 1108 the majority but Ken does get some credit. I don't think its koolaid, ken was part of the process as well. Trust but verify, that is what were doing. Thank you 1108 and Ken.



(This was typed today, tomorrow might be different)

 

[B19 Flyer]

Dayyyummm.....pardon me while I get clear of the impending lightning bolt!

I agree...Kenn seems to have taken some positive steps in the right direction. IMHO, I wouldn't be lulled into a false sense of good feeling by his overtures. It is essential that you folks stay the course. Remember that in the absence of a binding contract that which has been given can just as easily be taken away.

Exactly what I've been saying. They were bargaining chips, nothing more. As I stated already,

"It's part of the process and those that lost their jobs can blame their counterparts for bringing the union onto the property to give them the opportunity to lose their jobs, then get hired back later as a "feel good" and "good faith" part of the bargaining process. If you guys don't see that, than you're all a lot dumber than I thought you were.

 

[400pilot]

Dude, I hate to break it to you, but it was only the fools (company kool aid drinkers) here that actually believed what management said. Everyone else (and that would be the majority of us) knew this was a play and the rif pilots were going to be used by management as bargaining chips. We pilots have been talking about this possibility for the last few years. You call it "part of the process" and that is true. This is a perfect example of what UNETHICAL MANAGEMENT feels is "part of the process"......

I find it extremely amusing when people act like they are the only ones privy to such basic knowledge.....

 

[netjetwife]

Good post, 400! It also explains why Scheeringa got the boot. Luckily, KR appears to understand the importance of working with the pilots instead of against them. Perhaps he realizes that holding pilots as hostages hurts the company, too, because it ruins morale. It's a huge distraction when pilots are wondering if they will be next. That's hardly conducive to building a good working relationship...

 

[993_Pilot]

Exactly what I've been saying. They were bargaining chips, nothing more. As I stated already,

"It's part of the process and those that lost their jobs can blame their counterparts for bringing the union onto the property to give them the opportunity to lose their jobs, then get hired back later as a "feel good" and "good faith" part of the bargaining process. If you guys don't see that, than you're all a lot dumber than I thought you were.

Quit being so smug, we all realized that it was a possibility. However, it didn't have to be done, and it just goes to show you what our management was like... they were willing to potentially ruin the lives of many a family, in order to have their "bargaining chip". Apparently, it was a stupid bargaining chip too, because how does the company benefit when the pilots give the credit to the union for bringing them back? ... they don't, it just makes them believe more in the power of their union. So what was really gained by this? All that move did was to make everyone realize the necessity of their union, because without it, there is no protection for something like this happening again.

 

[netjetwife]

Well said, 993!

 

[CE750Driver]

Exactly what I've been saying. They were bargaining chips, nothing more. As I stated already,

"It's part of the process and those that lost their jobs can blame their counterparts for bringing the union onto the property to give them the opportunity to lose their jobs, then get hired back later as a "feel good" and "good faith" part of the bargaining process. If you guys don't see that, than you're all a lot dumber than I thought you were.

Yeah dumbass, no kidding. But you, you make it seem like the union made them bargaining chips. Can you explain to me in real terms where it was not the company, but the union, that made them bargaining chips?????

Go get your GED dumbass. The company fired them, making the play.

Ohhh, ohhhh, please tell me where the union CAUSED this problem.

Dumbass.

 

[dime line]

The COMPANY (da19 and shtfgr) let go 7 canpass pilots
The COMPANY (da19 and shtfgr) out of senority, laid off 70 pilots

The UNION (fellow pilots) got 70 rif pilots jobs back
The UNION (fellow pilots) got 5 canpass pilots jobs back


So who is the bad guy here?