HR5449 (ATC contract)

[unreal]

Just to let anyone interested know, HR5449 (which would have sent the FAA and NATCA back to binding arbitration) was voted on just a few minutes ago and didn't pass.

Looks like that's that. *sigh*

 

[gkrangers]

So the controllers are gonna get the shaft?

 

[unreal]

Yep, new controllers at least. The FAA can now unilaterally impose its new contract. I'm sure I speak for many others when I say that there's no way I'm going to separate traffic for $60-70k/year as a CPC.

 

[gkrangers]

Thats good money....but not for a senior high volume controller.

 

[cathaywannabe]

I hate to say it, but I'm glad I left CTI school early to pursue a decent flying job.

Next step: User fees and privatiziation!

 

[unreal]

Yeah, and I'm glad I only had to do a semester of CTI school to get it done (previous aviation degree). I feel bad for the people that have 4-year CTI degrees from UAA, UND, or ERAU.

 

[gkrangers]

A 4 year ATC degree is a huge waste...

I'm taking the CTI course as a minor.

 

[Piper877]

We need some vector trolls to chime in here regarding this. Are mass resignations really going to happen? If so, how many and how quickly?

Sorry to hear about this. God forbid the FAA negotiates in good faith.

 

[J.C.Airborne]

We need some vector trolls to chime in here regarding this. Are mass resignations really going to happen? If so, how many and how quickly?

Sorry to hear about this. God forbid the FAA negotiates in good faith.

As a current CTI student...this blows...really blows...we all got shafted. Ill be doing the exact same job as everyone else...but making pennies for one of the most stressful jobs one can have. Talk about getting kicked in the gut, the FAA are idiots and Marion Blakely is an incompetant imbecile. The sad thing is i usually vote republican...im ashamed to say that now. My bung hole hurts from the ass raping CTI students just recieved.:angryfire uke: :crying: :uzi: :bawling: :angryfire

 

[Hold West]

We need some vector trolls to chime in here regarding this. Are mass resignations really going to happen? If so, how many and how quickly?

No mass resignations - but a whole lot of retirements over the next three years or so. Mine included.

The system won't collapse. There won't be chaos in the skies. What there will be is a slow erosion of the margin of safety, as fewer, more fatigued controllers try to keep things afloat, while training new hires. One of the FAA's plans involves checking out new hires on just a couple of sectors, then letting them rot there. It'll be cheaper, since they won't have to pay partially qualified controllers as much as fully qualified controllers. But they will have only limited knowledge of what's going on around them, kind of like putting a guy in the right seat who knows how to raise and lower the landing gear and tune the radios, but that's all. He's a little handy, but leaves a lot of load on the guy who's in the left seat and has to do everything else. And do you think the FAA will put these partial controllers on the toughest sectors? No, of course not, they'll save them for the remaining fully qualified controllers, ratcheting their daily stress way up, and hastening their retirement.

The system is fragile enough already, as anyone who flys on a mid-summer thunderstorm day knows. It's going to just get a little more fragile.