How To Pre-flight A Flops B.j.

[brokeflyer]

What do you mean *I* have to pay for it? That doesn't make any sense...

think about it.

If I always give you the answers, you'll never learn anything.

 

[skanza]

think about it.

If I always give you the answers, you'll never learn anything.

That makes less sense. Just say what it is that you mean when you say "you have to pay for that. it aint free.". If you're trying to make a point, don't use riddles in your delivery-it blurs the point....

 

[brokeflyer]

ok ok....now i just feel sorry for you.

it means, trying to pay a crap wage won't get you a professional pilot. Quite the opposite in fact. You get what you pay for.

 

[FR8DOG777]

You're wasting your time broke, #51 was just a joke anyways. Flops management will gladly pay it's pilots in five years for a burger they eat today. Now back to our cells we go, i guess all that tunneling out and spreading the dirt around the courtyard was just in vain. The fear mongering the union spread about this thing not passing was just as thick as anything b19 has ever spewed.

 

[skanza]

ok ok....now i just feel sorry for you.

it means, trying to pay a crap wage won't get you a professional pilot. Quite the opposite in fact. You get what you pay for.

Thanks for the sympathy, but didn't you agree to the wage you're being paid when you took the job? Who's fault is that?

 

[dime line]

Thanks for the sympathy, but didn't you agree to the wage you're being paid when you took the job? Who's fault is that?

That is the most pathetic come back, Is that all you could come up with? Then the pay you signed up for is all you get, when this contract is voted in you can give back any pay raise you get, and of course you didn't vote cause your not paid up on your dues. Skumza

 

[993_Pilot]

... didn't you agree to the wage you're being paid when you took the job? Who's fault is that?

KR said, "you will always be the "highest paid pilots in the industry" to my indoc class... that's what I remember. I guess I'm the fool for believing anything that anyone in management said.

 

[1folinepilot]

Thanks for the sympathy, but didn't you agree to the wage you're being paid when you took the job? Who's fault is that?

Skanza,
Over half of the pilots of this company didn't hire in under these piss poor wages and play ball or be fired work rules, they were forced in during the merge. It was a take it or loose your job offer at the merge.

Seriously now, when are you going to stop the bullsh!t of trying to beat everybody down and put your energy with us to rebuild this company?

 

[brokeflyer]

Thanks for the sympathy, but didn't you agree to the wage you're being paid when you took the job? Who's fault is that?

ill let you think about that some more....let me know what you come up with.

im tired of explaining life to you, get a dog.

bye

 

[Hobbes]

Again, stalling the operation (where the money comes from) is no way (at least no professional way) to prove a point about you labor woes.
But go ahead, keep grounding green airplanes, no one's watching....

And that is YOUR opinion. You are free to have it. Personally, I feel the operation at Flops should be stalled not for reasons of labor woes, but to get them to start fixing their airplanes correctly. It is no secret how hard they avoid properly fixing their airplanes and that the bottom line in their operation is the bottom line, and NOT doing maintenance properly. They have a BAD reputation amongst professional pilots who know what it means to have integrity and do things right.

I wish them the best with their new contract and hope the pilots and company will reap many rewards going forward.

 

[Praetorian]

It is no secret how hard they avoid properly fixing their airplanes and that the bottom line in their operation is the bottom line, and NOT doing maintenance properly. They have a BAD reputation amongst professional pilots who know what it means to have integrity and do things right.

This is pure BS. It might have been true once upon a time, but not since about a year after the union was voted in.

If this is your perception and you work at Flight Options, it is now your job to change this. Now that we have a contract there is no excuse not to see to it personally that our aircraft are maintained properly. I'm not talking about vindictiveness, but you now have contractually protected professional responsibilities.

This is also why I will never put my family in the back of a plane flown by non-union pilots. Without a just-cause provision, who knows what they've been pressured into doing.

 

[B19 Flyer]

think about it.

If I always give you the answers, you'll never learn anything.

Broke, you have no answers. Your union always fought your battles for you and because of that, your career was always what your union made you do and you blindly accepted what the contract required. You were always at the mercy of the contract, your union dues and your union leaders. You have no thoughts of your own and your posts have consistently proved that.

Those of us working non-union have chosen to make our own decisions about our careers. We don't need no stinkin' unions to guide our careers.

 

[B19 Flyer]

ok ok....now i just feel sorry for you.

it means, trying to pay a crap wage won't get you a professional pilot. Quite the opposite in fact. You get what you pay for.

Broke, you just spit on the face of every professional pilot in the industry. A decent wage and lifestyle is up to the individual, not the union. Pilots and employees choosing to keep a union off the property don't want the BS that you accept as normal. It's a choice. What you consider a "sacrifice" in wages is considered a benefit for the freedom of living union free. What you consider a "crap" wage might be perfectly fine for somebody else and in no way compromises the skill of the pilot because they choose to be union-free.

 

[wacoflyr]

This is also why I will never put my family in the back of a plane flown by non-union pilots. Without a just-cause provision, who knows what they've been pressured into doing.

Hey, thanks for the slap. Please may I have another? I don't belong to a union. I would be happy to tell you to your face that any plane I fly not only meets the letter of the law, but it also contains a content, rested, competent pilot who is determined to come home to his family at the end of the week. Have I ever been pressured? Yes, although not with my present employer. Did I yield? Of course not. I told him I was PIC, and that was the end of the story. I don't need a union to back me up. Just what kind of spine are you using there? Clearly it's not your own.

I respect my fellow pilots who are unionized. I understand that management brought it on. Please respect those of us who work for companies that avoided unions by treating us like humans. Oh, and B19, you have still not learned to see both sides of an argument. That's ok, my eight year old daughter is working on the same issue.

 

[brokeflyer]

Broke, you just spit on the face of every professional pilot in the industry. A decent wage and lifestyle is up to the individual, not the union. Pilots and employees choosing to keep a union off the property don't want the BS that you accept as normal. It's a choice. What you consider a "sacrifice" in wages is considered a benefit for the freedom of living union free. What you consider a "crap" wage might be perfectly fine for somebody else and in no way compromises the skill of the pilot because they choose to be union-free.

well no one really cares what you think. if you weren't such an azz hole about it, im sure people would listen to you, even if it was to disagree. Attitude goes miles in this business and your's is very poor.

I find it very poor taste to negatively comment about anything I say, after all, i was a check airman on the space shuttle and wrote part 91k.

i accept your surrender and your apology.