How to get the union on property!

[Humphreybogart]

Man, these guys bore me. They can't even put out original info, they just go to the same old attacking the posters instead of the issues. Time for Ignore.

I wish you'd ignore yourself.

 

[FRACTRASH]

Bogart, glad to see you back. It seems as if your name always pops up in Rocker's post. I think he likes you.

 

[Humphreybogart]

Funny, I just met 2 CS pilots today in DAL that disagree with you, FracTrash. They were flying a Citation though, not a Cessna 172, so I doubt you know them.

Let me get this straight. You go up to 2 of our pilots today in the FBO and start talking to them about flightinfo.com and how ther are other CS pilots posting here that they hate unions. The CS pilots, with their heads spinning because they are wondering what planet you're from, say "what the hell are you talking about?" You proceed to tell them our story. They reply..."That Fractrash is WRONG. We all want a union at CS, what in the world is he talking about? He's probably flying a 172 anyways." Tell us the truth as to how your conversation at the fbo went with the CS guys. I hope you're getting excited reading this XP, you are such a nerd. If mommy saw this, she'd pull you out by your ear and scold you, bad boy.

 

[XPGuy]

Actually no. Was sitting in the FBO at Piedmont and they came up to my partner and I and started asking what we knew about 1108 and where we were at with our drive, and we started talking about how the CS guys got screwed on only getting the pay and not any of the other protections the 1108 got for net jets - the Flightinfo board never came up.

Nice comment about mom, and using the word "nerd". It solidifies what I've always imagined about you and your age (just like how you try to call people "kid") in regards to the maturity you provide, Bogart. Stick to the issues... when you go after people like that, it really makes you look foolish.

 

[Humphreybogart]

Bogart, glad to see you back. It seems as if your name always pops up in Rocker's post. I think he likes you.

I guess, but really, what's not to like?

 

[Safetycheck]

Vocabulary word of the day

Bogart. Stick to the issues... when you go after people like that, it really makes you look foolish.

Hawk XP guy:

Does the word "hypocrite" mean anything to you?

hyp·o·crite (hĭp'ə-krĭt)
[Middle English ipocrite, from Old French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hupocritēs, actor, from hupokrīnesthai, to play a part, pretend; see hypocrisy.]
noun

A person given to hypocrisy.

hy·poc·ri·sy (hĭ-pŏk'rĭ-sē)[URL="http://media.ask.com/hm/audio.gif"]http://media.ask.com/hm/audio.gif[/URL]
[Middle English ipocrisie, from Old French, from Late Latin hypocrisis, play-acting, pretense, from Greek hupokrisis, from hupokrīnesthai, to play a part, pretend, hupo-, hypo-, + krīnesthai, to explain middle voice ofkrīnein, to decide, judge.]
noun: pl., -sies.

1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. An act or instance of such falseness.

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XP guy, you are joking, right? Lets get real, no one but us losers are reading this thread anymore. This thread has degraded into the trash people come to expect of this board. You belong here, XP guy. There are not many other people in this world who care about what you have to say. Face it.

Please stop the hypocrisy. Stop calling the kettle black.

 

[Humphreybogart]

Hawk XP guy:

Does the word "hypocrite" mean anything to you?

XP guy, you are joking, right? Lets get real, no one but us losers are reading this thread anymore. This thread has degraded into the trash people come to expect of this board. You belong here, XP guy. There are not many other people in this world who care about what you have to say. Face it.

Please stop the hypocrisy. Stop calling the kettle black.

I too remember XP aka crybaby, calling me names in past posts. Maybe I should tell his mommy. I bet she puts soap in his mouth. XP, please don't tell the moderators about this post.

 

[XPGuy]

Thank you for emphasizing my point precisely. Crybaby, huh. Talk about calling the kettle black. All you and your childish friends do is cry about how the organization of the entire fractional industry is raining on your golden parade for your first real jobs (if you actually do even work there), when in reality, there are Citation Shares pilots every day realizing what it is they do NOT have.

You and your kindergarten buddies can call me whatever you want, it doesn't bother me, it only proves the point I already made that rather than debate the issues, you know you can't and win, so you go after the poster. The only name calling I have done is in retaliation for the name calling you and your playground bullies have done to innocent people like NetJetsWife or people that post a pro-union post - people who have done nothing but provide information to discuss. You aren't mature enough to engage in conversation with someone who may have a different opinion without attacking them and trying to insult them. That is a sign of immaturity, by any definition. And had your immature selves not stooped so low in your actions, I wouldn't have had to "go cry" to the moderators for your deplorable actions. Quite frankly, you disgust me, and you embarass all pilots, and especially, those who are professionals at Citation Shares.

Want to discuss something professional, I'm here. Otherwise, I'm done playing these games with you. Quite frankly, I don't have time for such childish crap.

 

[FRACTRASH]

Bogart: it looks like you have another one going now.

 

[gunfyter]

I have an idea. This thread was supposed to be about HOW TO GET A UNION ON THE PROPERTY.

Stopped being about that since the first page....

Lets let this thread die as its lost it purpose.

 

[Guitar rocker]

Guitar Rocker: I was giving you a taste of your own medicine. Every time someone disagrees with you, their junior or they must be a CFI, flying 152's, or it's their first jet job. Plus I'm tired of hearing how you raised the bar and everyone should bow down to the the almighty NJ pilots when you see them and thank them for fighting for us. You guys fought to make it better at NJ, I'm sure most of your pilots could care less what happens anywhere else. Just get over your self and move on. By the way I think the max mag drop is 75rpm on a 152, correct me if I'm wrong.

As for the sweatshop remark, it came straight out of the mouth of NJ pilots in the van ride to the hotel, before you got the new contract. Besides, I talked with some of your guys recently and they were not pleased with the rigorous 14/10 everyday. It sounds as if the company is trying to get every last dollars worth out of you guys. Thats not the quality of life on the road I would want. I guess I'll go play with my toys now Mr. 9999999+ hours.

Trash, I am glad to listen to the view point of others, or at least those who can present their opinion in a respectable manner and with FACTS. You on the other hand have proven that you do not have the ability to do so, and when someone asks a question of you, you respond with ,"yah, well we deserved it" and "we are the best" and "we have a top notch operation unlike anyone else out there," therefore, how am I or anyone for that matter, supposed to take you seriously? (In my opinion, I could care less who the best is.............it's the least of my concerns). You clearly do not want to listen to the opinion of another regarding unions or any subject with which you disagree. You simply attack that individual with some cheap shot and run away rather than attempting to see the opinion of another. You do this all the time...... there is a lot to be said for consistency in this case. You could at least acknowledge their opinion and then in a tactful way, explain why you disagree.

I have acknowledged the fact that NJA didnt raise the bar for everyone, but we did raise the bar for some....that is all I have ever mentioned in regards to our contract. We obviously didnt raise the bar or have ANY impact on CS, as you have so reminded us over and over. Sad thing is that even one of your own here has said just the opposite of that and hoped that you truly didnt work for CS as you are an embarrassment to CS guys. My CS buddies are also embarrassed to know that there is someone out there who has a mindset like you. But, you are entitled to your opinion.....

You have gotten rather upset over the course of your last many posts simply becasue you have been attacked for not presenting the facts and spouting out your consistent irrational behavior..........you are angry because you are losing ground and cant hold your own here anymore.

 

[netjetwife]

With 1108 standing by to offer advice, it would seem to be a fairly simple process to unionize. Standing up for yourself is always easier when you see others have been able to do it, and came out ahead. From what I hear, pilots from other frac companies are approaching NJ pilots in the FBOs, interested in gathering information, and sometimes even asking for a card.

WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY--FOLLOW 1108

 

[WheresRocky]

1108 this.

With 1108 standing by to offer advice,

WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY--FOLLOW 1108

Netwife RUFM 'em up again. Why don't you let people follow their own will, not yours.

 

[Guitar rocker]

Netwife RUFM 'em up again. Why don't you let people follow their own will, not yours.

Hey Rocky, a lot of other people have inquired about unions here. NJwife has every right to express her opinions here and answer questions about our contract. We all know how you are so anti-union, and I accept that....your entitled to your opinion as well. Just because you hate unions doesnt mean that others cant express their opinion. If you dont like that concept, then why dont you just leave or go to general?

 

[Hawkered]

For those of you who have enquired, a support site to 1108 has already been established for Flight Options. Our energies are invested in this area right now. The card drive at Flex Jet is well underway, and as soon as that is done we will concentrate on the others who have also asked for help.

 

[netjetwife]

Get over it, Rocky! I have made it clear that I support the right of pilots to have a voice in their career situations. As others have pointed out, there IS a move under way, whether or not you are willing to admit that. My posts are intended to cheer on those who have turned in their cards, and to encourage those who are thinking of it but may be a bit nervous of the unknown. Your complaints about my posts suggest that you fear, with encouragement, even more pilots will decide to cast their lot with the pilots who have already joined 1108. To quote you---Why don't you let people follow their own will, not yours? I'm standing by my post.

1108 REPRESENTS THE MAJORITY OF FRACTIONAL PILOTS--- STRENGTH IN NUMBERS

 

[Hawkered]

Netjetwife and others,

We don't want to discourage any ongoing efforts on the part of the many fractionals to join us, but we can only do so much with the resources we have available.

I hate to admit this, but we have to slow down just a little bit so that we can get FLOPS and Flexjet established, before we can really give the other groups as much support as they need. Our resources are being used wisely, but there are only so many hours in a day. Together with this, we need to maintain the integrity of the new contract at NJA.

Thanks to everyone for all of their support of the Association of Shared Aircraft Pilots.

 

[WheresRocky]

Are you signing off this topic then?

Netjetwife and others,

We don't want to discourage any ongoing efforts on the part of the many fractionals to join us, but we can only do so much with the resources we have available.

I hate to admit this, but we have to slow down just a little bit so that we can get FLOPS and Flexjet established, before we can really give the other groups as much support as they need. Our resources are being used wisely, but there are only so many hours in a day. Together with this, we need to maintain the integrity of the new contract at NJA.

Thanks to everyone for all of their support of the Association of Shared Aircraft Pilots.

That is AWESOME news! Does this mean that now you will shut your pie hole? I sure hope that from now on you are too busy, especially NetJet wife.

I truly hope that you are all too busy ministering your jihad to those who desperately need your help, cause we all sure would like to see you zip your freaking lip on this 1108 malarchy.

Everyone in unison: WE ARE SO GLAD TO HEAR THIS! Everyone...they are requesting a "truce!!" That dosent mean they wont attack us again later, but right now they have too many responsibilities to deal with us.

How wonderful. Glad to hear it. Now, SCRAM.

Moderator Reviewed

 

[XPGuy]

Why can't you respect anybody's opinions that may not agree with you? If you are anti-union, great. Be proud. However, this is a democratic country. The majority of pilots at Net Jets wanted 1108. The majority of pilots at Flight Options wants 1108 and has called a vote to join them in 1108. Flex Jet is currently working on accomplishing the same thing.

No matter how bad you attack people, you aren't going to change that. I'd like to see you bring a decent argument to not join 1108. Stop being a jerk and participate in the conversation instead of attacking people.

 

[Guitar rocker]

That is AWESOME news! Does this mean that now you will shut your pie hole? I sure hope that from now on you are too busy, especially NetJet wife.

I truly hope that you are all too busy ministering your jihad to those who desperately need your help, cause we all sure would like to see you zip your freaking lip on this 1108 malarchy.

Everyone in unison: WE ARE SO GLAD TO HEAR THIS! Everyone...they are requesting a "truce!!" That dosent mean they wont attack us again later, but right now they have too many responsibilities to deal with us.

How wonderful. Glad to hear it. Now, SCRAM.

Oooops, who let rocky out of the playpen??? He's supposed to be in there with Trash playing with the new leggos and toys I got for him. We need to treat this one like the child he is. How about if I get you some gerber strained peaches and perhaps that will shut YOUR pie hole Rocky.