How to get the union on property!

[Hawkered]

Oh Rocky, my little crazy nutty child, you're sounding so defeated. You better switch to decaf!

 

[Guitar rocker]

Why can't you respect anybody's opinions that may not agree with you? If you are anti-union, great. Be proud. However, this is a democratic country. The majority of pilots at Net Jets wanted 1108. The majority of pilots at Flight Options wants 1108 and has called a vote to join them in 1108. Flex Jet is currently working on accomplishing the same thing.

No matter how bad you attack people, you aren't going to change that. I'd like to see you bring a decent argument to not join 1108. Stop being a jerk and participate in the conversation instead of attacking people.

Unfortunately, Rocky is way too irrational so as to bring ANY decent argument here at all. He is just a waste of time.

 

[FL410Femme]

How does the CS pay stack up against Net Jets?

Do NJ pilots train on their day off?

How many colored pilots work at CS?

How many women pilots have left CS?

Does CS pay overtime during your duty tour?

Can you get fired from CS without notice or reason?

I guess its questions like these that continue to go unanswered, that are meaningful to some of us who are interested in knowing more of the "pilot" issues that can possibly affect us one day should we seek employment. The reason for some of the questions concern discrimination issues that I have heard about regarding CS. A workforce protected by unionization is above these issues and concerns.

Can these questions be answered by anyone with factual data without arguement or aggression?

Thanks

 

[Guitar rocker]

How does the CS pay stack up against Net Jets?

Do NJ pilots train on their day off?

How many colored pilots work at CS?

How many women pilots have left CS?

Does CS pay overtime during your duty tour?

Can you get fired from CS without notice or reason?

I guess its questions like these that continue to go unanswered, that are meaningful to some of us who are interested in knowing more of the "pilot" issues that can possibly affect us one day should we seek employment. The reason for some of the questions concern discrimination issues that I have heard about regarding CS. A workforce protected by unionization is above these issues and concerns.

Can these questions be answered by anyone with factual data without arguement or aggression?

Thanks

The CS guys can answer your other questions, but we do not go to training on our days off at NJA.

 

[FRACTRASH]

1. We have several colored folks working in different departments including pilots.

2. we have several women working for CS. Some are assistant chief pilots and check airman.

3 I don't know how many pilots left. You can't please everyone.

4. The training on our days on is changing this year, that is a fact.

5. Everyone who's been fired had a very good reason and was given many opportunities to shape up.

Hope this helps you. I've been with CS for a while now and I've treated very well. Glad I made the move to work here.

 

[Fozzy]

4. The training on our days on is changing this year, that is a fact.

Did you get that in writting?

 

[FRACTRASH]

Management kept every promise up to this point. I don't see a reason for it to change now. They do a great deal to keep the troupes happy. Thats how it's different here we don't have to fight and get things in writing.

 

[FLYLOW22]

1. We have several colored folks working in different departments including pilots.

Colored?

Are you saying that CS looks like a box of crayons?

 

[FRACTRASH]

funny, Not!!!!!!!

 

[Guitar rocker]

LaFemme, I am thinking that the term "colored" is a term from the 60's and perhaps not the best choice either. Nobody has asked you that type of question regarding your place of employment, and it makes me wonder why you would ask that of someone else? And in all honesty, the CS guys have already answered "how many women have left CS" in a previous post which you acknowledged. Why the question again?

 

[Humphreybogart]

How does the CS pay stack up against Net Jets?

Do NJ pilots train on their day off?

How many colored pilots work at CS?

How many women pilots have left CS?

Does CS pay overtime during your duty tour?

Can you get fired from CS without notice or reason?

I guess its questions like these that continue to go unanswered, that are meaningful to some of us who are interested in knowing more of the "pilot" issues that can possibly affect us one day should we seek employment. The reason for some of the questions concern discrimination issues that I have heard about regarding CS. A workforce protected by unionization is above these issues and concerns.

Can these questions be answered by anyone with factual data without arguement or aggression?

Thanks

Hi Femme, baby. I have a question for you. Bacall will be out of town for a little while working on a new movie. I'd be more than happy to get together with you alone and answer ANYTHING that comes to your mind. We won't hold anything back. Just you and I, what do you say, kid?

 

[Hawkered]

I can just imagine you Bogart! Sitting there in all of your bald and obese frame staring over horn rim glasses, whacking off to computer porn! I'm sure you're quite the woman's fantasy!

NOT!!!

 

[XPGuy]

Management kept every promise up to this point. I don't see a reason for it to change now. They do a great deal to keep the troupes happy. Thats how it's different here we don't have to fight and get things in writing.

Well, for all your sakes, let's hope that doesn't change. Unfortunately, without a contract, you are living on borrowed time. Whenever management wants to change anything, they can - promises don't matter. Trust me, we have had SOOO many promises not delivered at RTA and Options. They can break their gentlemen's agreement with you any time they want. Let's hope they don't.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

SkyWest recently purchased ASA. ASA is ALPA. Although SkyWest is trying very hard to not put ASA and SkyWest planes on the same route, they have already put pilots and planes interchangeably at all hubs (KSLC, KATL, etc.).

They fly the exact same equipment (CRJ's), and hub out of the exact same cities, for the most part.

The company is adamantly fighting it obviously, as if the petition for single-carrier status were approved, then all the SkyWest pilots would be subjected to BECOME ALPA union members, or at least to pay ALPA dues.

Here's the problem for SkyWest. If ASA were to win the single-carrier status, and SkyWest's pilots were not unionized, they would be subject to a staple of all their pilots to the bottom of the ASA seniority list. There is absolutely no protection for the SkyWest pilots.

Because if the vote wins, it could take years to negotiate a contract... if they get single carrier status, they would fold in ASA's contract (which isn't bad at all for a regional, I believe theirs is slightly higher than ComAir's), and save years of negotiating a contract.

Also, obviously, ALPA pilots merging to another ALPA seniority list will be as per the ALPA contract, and would be a date-of-hire integration, NOT a staple.

Man where do I start. This guy is pretty clueless. ASA had a small domicile in SLC before the purchase. They continue to have a small hub in SLC that some say will probably close. ASA's main hub is ATL. SKYW operates no regularly scheduled service in or out of ATL. There are very few common city pairs.

A single carrier ruling is highly unlikely. If it was TSA pilots would have succeeded in their single carrier petition regarding G0-Jets. SkyWest managment is smart enough to set things up so they don't have to worry about single carrier status.

If you really think SkyWest pilots would get stapled to the bottom ASA's seniority you're smoking some good sheet. Why don't you try to find a precedent for that one?

If ASA's contract was so wonderful why do ASA pilots want a lot of what the SkyWest pilots currently have?

Finally your statement about integration being DOH per ALPA is a crock. You have no understanding of the ALPA Merger Manual but you're spouting off like you're some sort of knowledgeable source.

Do a little research before you post.

 

[FRACTRASH]

XPGuy: I came from an Airline where management broke every promise. Their was always a big announcement coming up, but never happened. Unless you worked here at CS, you just won't under stand. It's an entirely different culture and mind set here. They know, in order to remain successful, they have to treat their employees with respect and make CS a place you want to work. Braking promises would be unproductive.

 

[FRACTRASH]

Hawkered: Bogart is certainly not obese. I've seen that guy bench 425lbs 5 reps in the gym. He's one of those guys all the girls want. It makes me sick.

 

[Hawkered]

XPGuy: I came from an Airline where management broke every promise. Their was always a big announcement coming up, but never happened. Unless you worked here at CS, you just won't under stand. It's an entirely different culture and mind set here. They know, in order to remain successful, they have to treat their employees with respect and make CS a place you want to work. Braking promises would be unproductive.

Is that statement as accurate as your spelling?

1. There

2. understand

3. Breaking

Where on earth did you go to school? Why on earth did they let you graduate?!!!

Moderator reviewed.

 

[Humphreybogart]

I can just imagine you Bogart! Sitting there in all of your bald and obese frame staring over horn rim glasses, whacking off to computer porn! I'm sure you're quite the woman's fantasy!

NOT!!!

You know what I look like, my pick is on my avitar. I AM quite the ladies man.

edited for language.

 

[FRACTRASH]

Hawkered: It's early, what can I say. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I'll try to do better.

 

[Hawkered]

Bogart, I see I struck a "little" chord there, huh! LOL.

Fractrash, I sure hope you don't use the same excuses when you're shooting an approach to minimums early in the am too! Do you read an approach plate that poorly?