How proud are GJ pilots?

[tomcash]

1st off I cannot bielive I am responding to this post....

For the record... I work at GJ and I do not hide my ID or bag tag. Nor do any of the people I with. Never have I even heard anyone try to make Gateway sound like Getway. Normally when a controller says Getaway the GJ crews put an emphases on GATEway. All you are trying to do is throw out FLAMEBAIT.

FlyHiToo and your picture...

You classless clownact... is there a moderator that can remove scum like this from the forum? You are a disgrace to yourself, your so called profession, and humanity...

Remove that picture...

 

[FlyHIToo]

G0jet was started by TRANS STATES HOLDINGS for the purpose of getting cheap labor instead of using thier own pilots. Now, knowing that TSH started G0jet, hired people off the street to staff the airline instead of hiring F/O's and letting the TSA pilots bid on the new aircraft thru seniority, why would anyone WANT to work there?

Every single pilot at TSA was offered the ablity to go to GJ with longevity and were given super senority in their new hire class. There have been TSA pilots in every single GJ pilot class...(WITH longevity)

The other difference is that TSH can transfer "assets" from one company to the other at ANY TIME. This means aircraft and routes, but, as the NMB has ruled, they are "seperate companies". They have the ability to shrink TSA at thier own convenience to get around organized labor. Any eagle guys care to comment on how things were before all of the small airlines were organized into what we now know as "eagle"?

I think the Eagle guys would tell you it made no difference. Because of TSA, they still transfered active aircraft to Trans States, while AE had pilots on furlough. AMR is a holding company that own AA and AE. AA has had its routes transfer to AE and furloughed AA pilots while AE hires. Same thing with DAL and ComAir.

TSA Holding owns TSA and GJ. TSA is hiring and growing. I could be worse.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Hey FlyHIToo, you didn't answer my question chief. Why did all of you cowards change your usernames when you got hired over there? You guys are really good at dodging the questions that you don't want to answer.

 

[FlyHIToo]

Hey FlyHIToo, you didn't answer my question chief. Why did all of you cowards change your usernames when you got hired over there? You guys are really good at dodging the questions that you don't want to answer.

I don't know that anyone did change there names. I didn't.

moderator reviewed.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

I don't know that anyone did change there names. I didn't.

Riiiight. So you didn't start posting here until Oct 05 which is within a few months of the time that you went to work at GJ. Same with FuelFlow as well I'm sure. I'll believe that when me shat turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbet.

 

[FN FAL]

I'll believe that when me shat turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbet.

Would that improve the taste?

 

[Resocha]

No.

Regional airlines exist today in their current form because DALPA refused to fly 50 seat small jets back in the early 1990s. They were too good for the RJ, and let the commuter prop trash step up to the 'big leagues' with a tiny jet. Now mainline unions are fighting to take those planes back that they discarded over a decade ago, but they don't want anything to do with the pilots currently flying them.

However you try to explain it, the fact is that regional airlines exist to reduce the operating costs of the supporting major. Those costs include labor.

 

[Drill Sgt. Dad]

Throwing flamebait? Me? no! I am telling you what I heard and what I saw. If the GJ pilots are that proud of thier jobs and of thier company, then why hide it? Even when FLYI was dying, I still wore my uniform and my ID and jacket that said Independence Air. I knew we were going to tank, but stuck it out as long as I was able to.
AS for TSA, where the h*ll is your MEC and what's wrong with DM, your MEC chairman? In no certain terms should TSA ever cover open flying from GJ. And if the NBM rules it's seperate companies then there shouldn't be an issue. If GJ can't be properly staffed to cover thier own flying, then it's mgt's problem. MGT will only push around any employee group as far as the group will let them. Unfortunately, there are those in the ranks who get the Stockholm syndrome and side with mgt. Look at the CCAIR pilots, they stood up to JO and told him to shove his paycuts where the sun doesn't shine, he had to shutdown the operation because he was humiliated by them. But remember look at the size CCAIR was compared to the other regionals.

 

[flyhawk]

FlyHIToo,

I'm going to echo Tomcash's post. You are truly a pathetic individual and I don't even know you personally. The moderator should remove you permanently.

As a Catholic, your avatar is one of the most offensive items I've ever seen on this board. I would expect nothing more from G*J*t scum like you. Think about it. If you choose to be an idiot in your life, that's fine, but there's no need to offend an entire religion while you're at it, and don't give me any of that "free speech" cr*p.

You SHOULD know what's moral and right, but clearly your actions show otherwise. The fact that you chose to work where you do provides further proof of your poor choices, which I'm sure extend elsewhere in your life. I feel sorry for you. I think you need help!!

"Hi, my name is FlyHIToo."
Group - "Hi FlyHiToo!"

 

[SkyBoy1981]

I have young relatives with interests in aviation that frequent this site. I find FlyHIToo's avatar to be inappropriate for such young viewers. He should either remove it or be removed.

And before a remark is made about my own avatar...I happen to own a dog named Weiner.

 

[TCBKING]

Regional pilots pissed off at regional pilots for taking jobs away? Isn't that the whole existence of the regionals - to take jobs away from the majors?

Isn't this "the pot calling the kettle black?" Maybe the truth hurts, but the reality is that major airline jobs have been sacrificied to the regionals because of the lower costs, and the GJ experiment is just the next step.

And there lies the problem.. Pilots vs pilots. When is this group going to wise up and quit allowing all these mgmt companies pit us against each other?? I dont think the average regional pilot took any jobs from the majors...It was Major Airline Mgmt giving it away for a profit. Etc Etc Blah blah blah... fill in your own argument but enough of pilots being angry with pilots. With the exception of those Gateway bastards..

 

[gkrangers]

If you can't handle the pope avatar, you should just leave the internet now.

 

[lear24]

Regional pilots pissed off at regional pilots for taking jobs away? Isn't that the whole existence of the regionals - to take jobs away from the majors?

Isn't this "the pot calling the kettle black?" Maybe the truth hurts, but the reality is that major airline jobs have been sacrificied to the regionals because of the lower costs, and the GJ experiment is just the next step.

I agree, the same guys who are all wound up about these "scum" "stealing" their flying are the same guys who showed up in their cute little jets and "stole" my flying years ago. They didn't just take flying that used to be done by the mainline, but flying that used to be done by more respectable commuters, who were making more money flying smaller equipment. It is the pot calling the kettle black to sit there in your RJ and look with such distaste on the neighboring RJ because you pay ALPA dues and he does not. Are they making that much less than you, anyway? When you say they are guilty and hide their IDs, did you do that same thing as you strutted around the hub airport while I watched more of you take the gates where I used to park, and fly off on the routes I used to fly? Probably not. I know what it feels like to be outsourced, and now you too are being outsourced. I wouldn't go nuts calling these guys scabs when you yourself came in to do the job I was doing for less money, with an inferior contract. This is just the next step, and it is a truly unfortunate one in the race to the bottom. It is just another stage in the race. Don't get me wrong, I oppose GJ and everything it stands for. I think it is wrong and evil. I do think you should see it the way I see it before you call a guy a scab. He's not flying struck work, he's just flying the airplane next door to you, like you were flying the one next door to me. In all sincerity, good luck making GJ go away, it'd be a step to stop the race to the bottom.

 

[Green]

honest question here, but where did most GJetters come from?

Abusive families....

 

[Green]

The difference is that CHQ was not started by ASA management.

G0jet was started by TRANS STATES HOLDINGS for the purpose of getting cheap labor instead of using thier own pilots..

I thought they already had cheap labor. Never underestimate the greed of management.

 

[Resocha]

FlyHIToo,

I'm going to echo Tomcash's post. You are truly a pathetic individual and I don't even know you personally. The moderator should remove you permanently.

As a Catholic, your avatar is one of the most offensive items I've ever seen on this board. I would expect nothing more from G*J*t scum like you. Think about it. If you choose to be an idiot in your life, that's fine, but there's no need to offend an entire religion while you're at it, and don't give me any of that "free speech" cr*p.

You SHOULD know what's moral and right, but clearly your actions show otherwise. The fact that you chose to work where you do provides further proof of your poor choices, which I'm sure extend elsewhere in your life. I feel sorry for you. I think you need help!!

"Hi, my name is FlyHIToo."
Group - "Hi FlyHiToo!"

YGTBFKM. Offended by the avatar of the pope? What about all of the sleezy avatars of women (including mine)? Why are those morally acceptable? No good catholics have complained about mine.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

YGTBFKM. Offended by the avatar of the pope? What about all of the sleezy avatars of women (including mine)? Why are those morally acceptable? No good catholics have complained about mine.

The text in his avatar refers to a sexual act that may not be suitable for young viewers.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

I see he went through the trouble of removing the text. I win.

 

[Resocha]

I see he went through the trouble of removing the text. I win.

I didn't see that. I thought flyhawk was just angry with the funny picture of the pope.

 

[007]

However you try to explain it, the fact is that regional airlines exist to reduce the operating costs of the supporting major. Those costs include labor.

Maybe so, but only because you guys were too good to fly a fifty seat jet or a turboprop with a mainline name and paycheck for that matter.

Why are all you guys so offended at one airline list, when it is what all you guys advertise.