How hot is your cockpit?

[I.P. Freley]

Sweet avatar of the Black Widow, BTW...

 

[nosewheel]

256 pax in a DC-8 with NO packs or fans sittin on the ramp in Jedda(Saudia) for two hours is HOT HOT HOT. You know its bad when it starts raining inside the airplane.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Sweet avatar of the Black Widow...

It's my wife's grandfather's, #9583. 418th NFS, Okinawa.

 

[flight-crew]

With the CRJ, I think the key is to keep the aircraft cool and not let it get hot. If you have the same aircraft all day, then start the APU asap and leave it running anytime that you are on the ground. When it's hot outside, I set the temp. controllers to full cold on the descent. That way when we land, all the ducts and the cabin is cool. If the ducts are cool, then it's much easier to cool the airplane. Another thing that you can do is to have the external air (if available) hooked up and running. Run the external air and the APU and you should get some pretty good flow. And make sure that there are no "kinks" in the external air hose. You won't get much airflow with a kink in the line. As previously stated, open all vents in the cabin, galley, and flight deck. Close all window shades. Use window shades for both cockpit windows. And keep the main cabin door curtain closed to keep the heat and humidity out.

I think it all depends on the APU and how worn out the packs are. I've been in some aircraft where they cool well, and others where the airflow is weak. But with external air, all aircraft cool down quickly.

 

[Kaman]

Hi Guys,
I think I might have all of you best on this one...Try flying around in an SH-60F with the ECS INOP and wearing a wetsuit for three-hours of plane guard. Oh and while you are at how about handling a mail run to the "cowboys" and humping a cabin full of mail while in said wetsuit! I sure don't miss any of that!
So, nowadays when I swelter in the cockpit of a Sundowner I remember what being really hot felt like!

Regards,

ex-Navy Rotorhead

 

[wmudriver]

swamp ass!

swamp ass sucks!

 

[BaronFR8Dog]

Typhoon,

I'll tell you what... I'll fly your new RJ and you can fly my 1975 Baron at 5pm after it's been baking on a 100 degree ramp all day.

Oh, bring a raincoat just in case. Yes, I said a raincoat.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Typhoon, I'll tell you what...I'll fly your new RJ and you can fly my 1975 Baron at 5pm after it's been baking on a 100 degree ramp all day. Oh, bring a raincoat just in case. Yes, I said a raincoat.

I instructed in Cherokees and Seminoles in Florida. I feel your pain, bruthuh.

But like I said, this is an airline pilot whining about air conditioning that's below par. Those of you without air conditioning are another story. "It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether!"

Birds chirp, dogs bark, cows moo, pilots bitch.

 

[Hovernut]

Was flying ship #7040 last week and was #20 something for takeoff at ATL after ramp got us out :20 late (I don't know how you ASA guys keep your sanity!) I don't know if it was a weak APU, or the packs were screwing up, but while waiting in line and swealtering in the cockpit, I checked the ECS page and saw that the cabin pack had dropped offline. Man, I bet it was a sweathouse back there...they never did cool off for a trip to ABE. Needless to say, we dropped off the front pack and brought the rear one back up; that is, until we transferred the bleeds after departure.

Our new APU policy doesn't help, too. Light it up 3 min prior to push, or 10 min if environmentally necessary, when we begin boarding 20 min prior. What ever happened to customer service? If we regularly had air carts...sure, kill the APU, but in summertime with people running to make their connections, I'd like for them to have a nice comfortable, cool cabin to take refuge in.

But, hey, it's still better than flying in a tin can in NM or FL! Like Typhoon said...it sucks to get spoiled!

 

[Prop Trash]

I've never been hot in the EMB-145. Even the first one off of the assembly line (S/N 004) delivered in 1997 still blows snow in the cockpit even when the OAT is close to 100 F. Oh...but I've paid my dues - two Houston summers on the BE-1900 and one summer on the ATR. It doesn't get any worse.

 

[LearLove]

Wrong

"The funny part?

The REASON we didn't have a gate was that Allegheny was delaying their departure until their FO arrived (for those who don't know, HPN routinely makes arrivals wait until a gate is vacated by "company", even if it's only "company" in the sense that you serve the same system).

WHERE was that FO?"

Wrong - Try again, the summer of 01 Allegheny did not fly into or out of HPN. We only started going back there within the last year or little over a year ago.

 

[LearLove]

"Our new APU policy doesn't help, too. Light it up 3 min prior to push, or 10 min if environmentally necessary, when we begin boarding 20 min prior."

Ouch. Does anyone comply with this?


Another thing is to get some old VFR sectionals for sunshades. They fold nice and work well in the Dash, fitting right into the window frame.

Now we need to lynch the dot head who decided to paint our aircraft dark blue.

 

[JetPilot500]

I wonder what OSHA would say about this problem?

I'm sure there are some rules regarding temperatures in the work environment. If it is a real problem, it may be worth looking into.

JetPilot500

(Oh god! I'm starting to sound like an ALPA member again! )

 

[NuGuy]

Hi JetPilot,

Nice try, but OSHA refuses to get involved with anything to do with aviation... The FAs various unions have been trying for years, and their attitude is "nope, its an FAA problem, we can't touch it."

Nice thinking, though...

Cheers,
Nu

 

[mattfish42]

Can you imagine what OSHA would have to say about the day-to-day work of the average GA mechanic?!
If they're content to leave aviation alone then we should leave OSHA alone. We don't need their brand of "help".