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Ditto UPS Captain. Despite the clown's tantrum, I too have never been furloughed nor unemployed -- and feel very lucky and grateful not to have been. I have also felt lucky and grateful that I've been hired after every airline interview I ever had. My company has quite a few guys still on furlough and feel my no.1 task as a union member is to get those guys back on payroll and the company back in the black. They were hired in good faith, were protected by no-furlough clauses and through absolutely no fault of their own, they were furloughed. Absolutely zero reflection on them personally, but a risk in this industry. Although it's little consolation, I guess they can now call themselves the proverbial "real" airline pilot.

Mugsy - Your explanation is perfectly plausible. Don't take anything on this board as a "slam," just realism, especially in the state of the industry now. I was in similar circumstances when I retired from the USAF -- not much recent flying time - but, hiring was hot and I was able to get a Part 121 job flying heavies worldwide and built a lot of time pretty quickly -- albeit at not a "major" paycheck. I think my military background, plus 1000 hours or so of part 121 experience and a heavy type-rating (and in-company recommendations) made me "competitive" for a major airline. If times were then what they are now, I probably wouldn't be "competitive." I was certainly "qualified" but not necessarily "competitive." Getting yourself competitive for a major would probably be a matter of getting a bunch of current military PIC time or Part 121 experience (maybe at a second tier company) and waiting for major hiring again. Also, we all hope that US Air and America West survive as employers and don't release a bunch of guys to the street. Right now US Air alone has over 1000 pretty senior, superbly competitive guys on furlough. Depending on the future, if those guys start believing that they won't be going back to US Air, some will be willing to resign seniority and start over at another major. It's a complicated and uncertain situation right now. Only you know what your best course is. But, make that decision based on a realistic assessment of your competitiveness and the industry situation. Go to the Air Inc convention and expecially the military transition seminar. Good luck.
 
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Draginass said:
Ditto UPS Captain. Despite the clown's tantrum, I too have never been furloughed nor unemployed -- and feel very lucky and grateful not to have been.

Draginass,

I owe you an apology. My brain doesn't work too well any more.
I mistook you for someone else. Obviously, my excessive drinking is now affecting my few remaining brain cells (cell). Well, that's what 3 months of TDY at the Sherry in Miami does to you, I guess. Either way, I have deleted that post, and I believe I owe you your bar tab should you make it down to Miami at some point. Certainly the drinks would be on me.

I gotta stop bidding this......eventually.

In unity,

Clownpilot
 
Clown Pilot

Let up on Clown Pilot guys, he's very fun to argue with. He's just an overweight out of shape wannabe with zero credentials. Right Clown!
 
Go guard

Mugsy,

That SOB Opie took my words out of my mouth. I fully agree with him. I did very close to that and now I be an aerlayn pilott. We are hiring in my guard unit and I know that all kinds of units will be looking for guys after stop loss ends. Submitt apps now to these places and go visit your top three. Once you get in, you can shotgun the majors and you will be hireable very soon (I landed the job with under 300 total fixed-wing and about 1200 PIC) You are no-kidding, sitting pretty.

As to Opie, Skids are for kids....
 
Hey B-J-J!!!

Wait a daggone minute, buster....

I looked at that picture and you appear to be wailing on Spiderman...

Now, I don't know about the rest of America, but while you can say anything about anybody on this board, I ain't gonna put up with somebody kicking Spidey bu++...

I'm sending in the Incredible Hulk to teach you a lesson!:D


There...I feel better already.
 
Re: Clown Pilot

B-J-J Fighter said:
Let up on Clown Pilot guys, he's very fun to argue with. He's just an overweight out of shape wannabe with zero credentials. Right Clown!


LOL. Quiet.

Shhhhhh.

Please don't tell American.

I was beginning to think they wouldn't ever catch on.
 
Eagle Flip

Eagle Flip you can bring on the Hulk! I will pin him to, or sumbit him too. It doesn't make a difference to me. That pic is of me a few years ago when I was wrestling in college. Im the one in the red shirt about to take the guy down, that was right before nationals and me and my bud were doing some submission grappling after practice for fun.

We use to have an audience after practice because we would go "live" for about 5 minutes after each practice. Both of us were and still are really involved in "ultimate fighting" or reality fighting. After practice the coaches would just stand around and watch us and say how crazy were were beacuse we punched, kicked, elbowed and everything in between. In the off season he and I would hit the road on the weekends to fight in smaller shows like the UFC and we never made a dime doing it, just for the love of the sport. Fighting in front of a few hundred sometimes to a few thousand sometimes is the most scary thing I have ever done. At the same time the most fun thing I have ever done, its bone chilling, exciting, and a true adrenaline rush all at the same time.

I really miss those days, now a few years later Im sitting here at my house with a wife 9 months pregnant. Oh how things can change. Sorry about corrupting your thread just living those fun days gone by, I hope to fight again sometime soon when I finally have time to train properly.
 
Re: Eagle Flip

I really miss those days, now a few years later Im sitting here at my house with a wife 9 months pregnant. Oh how things can change. Sorry about corrupting your thread just living those fun days gone by, I hope to fight again sometime soon when I finally have time to train properly. [/B][/QUOTE]>>

LOL

Ignore him. He's a mental case
 
C'mon, guys...

We're talking about the ultimate "mano y mano" fight for B-J-J, and it isn't over for a lifetime....


Fatherhood!

Enjoy it, bro.
 
mugsy,
If its quality PIC time you want, AETC is the place to get it. I know pre- 9-11 the Reserves were looking for T-38 IPs at Lauglin. I know its Del Rio, but its the T-38 and its the Reserves. If that jobs not open, how about a 3 year stint, still on active duty, as a 37/38 IP? Cant speak for the 38 drivers, but as a tweet ip you will get 400+ hours a year, 99% PIC, without trying. A little (actually alot) effort and you could get 500 a year. If you go to a heavy, you will start off as a copilot most likely, for maybe 100-200 hours, before they check you out as an AC. And the only way to get the hours fast is tdy. Then theres "other" time which counts for precisely squat! Of course you could do the heavy thing in the reserves and be ready when hiring picks up again, vice stuck in with an ADSC....

Ditto on going to All ATPs asap, but I would wait on the FEw. It only lasts 2 years, and its easy to do on your own. when and if you need it.

Just my semi-sober .02...
 

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