"Hi there, I'm Standard"

[777forever]

I heard there's a Captain at ASA that makes you write down the actual fuel numbers at every fix enroute and cross check it with the release.....

 

[Metro752]

"I'm easy to fly with thread number 234,719. Go!"

 

[IBNAV8R]

I hate your briefs. I'll nod my head and pretend I give a sh|t but I'm really thinking, it's an RJ not a 76, we all fly a hundred legs a month, and this job really isn't that difficult, only mind-numbing when I have to listen your pointless briefs.

I don't care if your super standard or if you have a pound of hash in your flight case, just try not to be a total doosh.

. . . And who says we have a problem with professionalism at the regionals?

 

[samballs]

"Hi, I'm standard" was never the flag. The true flag was someone that mentioned something along those lines and then ended up having a napoleon complex and not being smart enough to fly standard. You typically didn't find this out the first time you met them, though. There was normally a trail of pissed off FO's and FA's that they left behind.

Then there were the guys that just didn't care.... (for some reason they were almost always smokers...). That made for a long trip trying to figure out just what book they were reading from.

Being laid back and standard is always the easiest (and certainly is possible unlike some of the morons on here seem to think)- it takes minimal brain power and you always know what to expect.

Best pilot I ever met was an AA Capt. At 10,00 smoke in cockpit out of LAS, he and FO dont budge, I'm sitting there like wtf. Finally he says if the smoke gets bad tell me, the woman up front has not figured out how to not burn food yet. Then proceeds to tell me not to get married, just find what ever girl is hot to you, buy her a house, and never talk to her again. He then explained that mang hates pilots but as long as you look professional and never look defeated in front of them, they go home more pissed than you. Reason I quoted you is, I just came back from put in bay, and had never heard about the boat, now I cant get that damn song out of my head.

 

[DX Rick]

I heard there's a Captain at ASA that makes you write down the actual fuel numbers at every fix enroute and cross check it with the release.....

There is a guy at OH who does this.
He says "This is just my technique, I like to write down the fuel at the waypoints and double check it with the release, but thats just my technique".
Then while enroute he gets all flustered and tells me to pull out the release and do as he says.
And yes, he's been in the CP's office a couple times for messing up. So he's scared and trying to cover his arse in every arena.

 

[LazyLightnin']

There is a guy at OH who does this.
He says "This is just my technique, I like to write down the fuel at the waypoints and double check it with the release, but thats just my technique".
Then while enroute he gets all flustered and tells me to pull out the release and do as he says.
And yes, he's been in the CP's office a couple times for messing up. So he's scared and trying to cover his arse in every arena.

He should do it himself.

 

[platinum750]

amen brother

 

[Abernathy]

I heard there's a Captain at ASA that makes you write down the actual fuel numbers at every fix enroute and cross check it with the release.....

can he make you do that.. it was never a trained item. But I guess since we "serve at the pleasure" of the Captain...

 

[777forever]

can he make you do that.. it was never a trained item. But I guess since we "serve at the pleasure" of the Captain...

Don't think he can. I've never flown with the individual though. Just heard from a couple people who have.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Serious question, especially for those of you having such issues with of all things, a "briefing."

What are things you like to hear in a briefing then?

 

[Caveman]

I'm not a CA these days, but when I was my brief went something like this:

"My intention is to do it by the book. If I'm not doing it by the book it's an unintentional error on my part. Please point it out so I can make a correction. I'll give you the same courtesy."

The guy writing the checks is paying me to do it a certain way. As long as the checks don't bounce I'll attempt to do it the way they want. It's their airline. Not mine. If I feel a procedure is so badly flawed that I'm compelled to substitute my own I'll bring it to someone's attention and let them reevaluate it it. The truth is companies have been flying airliners since before I was born. Most of them know what they are doing. I could nit pick a few minor things but for the most part my 121 experience has been that there really wasn't anything that didn't make sense.

What ever happened to the idea of simply doing your job like your boss wants it done? When I say "boss" I mean the company and the CA. A CA can be standard and still like certain things done a certain way. Why not just show him/her a little bit of respect and accomodate them?

It's an old adage, but it's still accurate. If you want to be a good leader you have to know how to follow. CA's should diligently attempt to be standard and they should require their crew to do so as well. I've never met a pain in the ass follower that suddenly morphed into a great leader. You may be the exception, but I doubt it.

Now I'm going to make a controversial statement. It has been my experience that pilots at the traditional major/legacy airlines are collectively more professional and more disciplined than their regional counterparts. That isn't to say regional pilots aren't professional. For the most part they are every bit as professional as their major counterparts. However, I've seen more unprofessional behavior at the regionals than I have at the majors. I say this as someone who has flown at both and who JS frequently on both. I don't know if the difference is a function of age (maturity), experience, corporate culture or the greater influence of pilots with a military back ground. It's a subtle difference, but it's still there. I know that will be an unpopular sentiment, but I stand by it. Flame suit on....

 

[olympus593]

I guess some people still give a S_H_I_T, wow.

 

[Dubya]

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[semperfido]

you guys crack me up

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

3 pages to figure out that some pilots are jerks, some are cool, some can't fly, and some can.

Some get along with others well, no matter what their respective "styles" and others can't.

So, there's probably some sort of table that we could come up with:

Non-standard, picky, "doosh" captains shouldn't fly with standard, picky, doosh FOs
Standard, non-picky FOs and Capts can fly with anyone . . . etc.

How about: Don't be a doosh and fly by the book? That way, if you're picky, you'll both agree what went wrong.