Hello Ual Goodbye Usappy

[waveflyer]

to excess capacity in the west will give an opportunity for VA and WN. did network exec's not learn anything from the PSA dismantling? if that happens it might just be the foothold VA was looking for.

 

[Deadalus]

And the Westies? Who are they going to kiss?

United's ass of course.

 

[reepicheep]

The UAL guys were leery of the '94 deal, livid in 2000, and I'd imagine will be apoplectic if a USAir deal is attempted now.

Just curious, from the UAL pilot point of view, how far will you go to kill this?

 

[Deadalus]

The UAL guys were leery of the '94 deal, livid in 2000, and I'd imagine will be apoplectic if a USAir deal is attempted now.

Just curious, from the UAL pilot point of view, how far will you go to kill this?

Their management unfortunately has steered them onto a course where a merger is required for their survival.

 

[PCL_128]

Really? After going through two ALPA/ALPA mergers myself, I'd say it's great timing! Tell us about the last ALPA merge that went well (save for the uncashed lotto ticket called Nic)?

Your dimwitted uSCABa reps can't even panhandle for enough money from the pilots to get an election put together for legitimate new reps. You think they can effectively arbitrate an SLI? Ha!

 

[Colonel Savage]

Your dimwitted uSCABa reps can't even panhandle for enough money from the pilots to get an election put together for legitimate new reps. You think they can effectively arbitrate an SLI? Ha!

Someone posted on another forum:

"I'm not sure if this is true but, rumor has it that per Bond-McCatskill, when two airlines merge that are represented by different unions the SLI must be DOH?
I'm not trying to flame, but does anyone know if this is true?

If so, the East guys made a brilliant move for themselves....."

Does that sound valid, PCL?

 

[PCL_128]

It's not true. Bond-McCaskill only requires ALG-Mohawk LPPs, which say nothing of DOH. The LPPs are basically identical to ALPA merger policy. They require negotiations, then mediation, then arbitration. The directions to the arbitrator are "fair and equitable."

 

[weasel_lips]

If I get nothing more out of this than the pleasure of seeing usappy go bust it will be well worth it. Bradford you are your band of goones will soon get what's coming to you. Remember this if nothing else in your life, GOD don't like ugly!!!!

WD.

You speaking from experience?

 

[f15boomer]

It's not true. Bond-McCaskill only requires ALG-Mohawk LPPs, which say nothing of DOH. The LPPs are basically identical to ALPA merger policy. They require negotiations, then mediation, then arbitration. The directions to the arbitrator are "fair and equitable."

Once again you talk out of yor a--s. It will be DOH. Read it again

 

[PCL_128]

Once again you talk out of yor a--s. It will be DOH. Read it again

Some of you guys are real mental midgets. Go do some research. DOH is nowhere to be found in the LPPs or in Bond-McCaskill.

 

[FDJ2]

Delta/Western went well.

USAPA is out of its league pretending to be a CBA. Nicolau will survive, no arbitrator is going to accept USAPA's BS seniority list. The USAPA losers will have their lunch handed to them in arbitration as the Nicolau award is used in the SLI.

 

[Dan Roman]

Someone posted on another forum:

"I'm not sure if this is true but, rumor has it that per Bond-McCatskill, when two airlines merge that are represented by different unions the SLI must be DOH?
I'm not trying to flame, but does anyone know if this is true?

If so, the East guys made a brilliant move for themselves....."

Does that sound valid, PCL?

I'm guessing the same people that started that rumour are some of the same people at USAir East that were twisting the truth about the benefits of voting in USAPA. I think you USAPA guys really screwed the pooch on this one.

 

[johnnyb]

If I get nothing more out of this than the pleasure of seeing usappy go bust it will be well worth it. Bradford you are your band of goones will soon get what's coming to you. Remember this if nothing else in your life, GOD don't like ugly!!!!

WD.

Good luck trying to convince a United pilot your 2005 hires should have 1600 pilots junior to them on a combined list!

 

[Ocity]

Good luck trying to convince a United pilot your 2005 hires should have 1600 pilots junior to them on a combined list!

That's why you don't ask another pilot what the definition of "fair" is. That's what binding arbitration and two neutral parties are for.

When you sign away all rights of appeal, and put your fate into another person's hands...you take you chances.

The East Blew this one BIG TIME. They had two years to back off of doh, but their arrogance and sense of entitlement blinded them. USAPA is just fuel on the fire, they won't change anything.

 

[CopilotDoug]

And the Westies? Who are they going to kiss?

Glen Tilton's taint. But as usual, the pilot group is fighting nicely amongst itself...while the boat continues to sink.

 

[contrail67]

Their management unfortunately has steered them onto a course where a merger is required for their survival.

A merger is required for Tilton to get his millions....not for United's survival.

 

[Jet41]

If I get nothing more out of this than the pleasure of seeing usappy go bust it will be well worth it. Bradford you are your band of goones will soon get what's coming to you. Remember this if nothing else in your life, GOD don't like ugly!!!!

WD.

What a truely kind and good person you are to be happy about thousands of families to lose the thier means of support. Good thing your not one of those self centered judgemental types.

 

[Guppiedriver]

What a truely kind and good person you are to be happy about thousands of families to lose the thier means of support. Good thing your not one of those self centered judgemental types.

He's talking about the union busting morons at UCRAPA, not US Airways.

 

[CopilotDoug]

He's talking about the union busting morons at UCRAPA, not US Airways.

They're one and the same. The West will have to take a bite of the same ******************** sandwhich that the west does (Furloughs, anyone???)

Two cows in line at the slaughterhouse. And the second cow is laughing at how bad the first cow is going to get it.

I'm grabbing the popcorn

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

They're one and the same. The West will have to take a bite of the same ******************** sandwhich that the west does (Furloughs, anyone???)

Two cows in line at the slaughterhouse. And the second cow is laughing at how bad the first cow is going to get it.

I'm grabbing the popcorn

However, you are the 56th cow...laughing at the 2nd cow who is laughing at the first...

Need butter for your popcorn?