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Gulfstream Type Ratings

pmmartin

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Hello,

Can any Gulfstream guys/gals out there tell me how the FAA views Gulfstream type ratings. If I got typed on a G2, would that permit me to operate G3, G4, etc.
How about the 450/550, are they all separate? I remember the old days when a Learjet type would cover you from the LR23 to the LR 55, if you believe that! Might have a chance at a G2 type and want to know if it's worth much anymore.

Thanks
 

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I believe that the GII and GIII are their own separate type ratings. The GIV and GV are common with G350, G450 and G550. You just need difference training.
The G150 and G200 are their own separate type ratings.
Are you talking about a GII or a G200? A GII type is just about worthless, if you are getting it for free then go for it but not worth any $$ out of your own pocket. A G200 type rating would be very valuable right now!
 
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I believe that the GII and GIII are their own separate type ratings. The GIV and GV are common with G350, G450 and G550. You just need difference training.

Actually, the GII and GIII share a common type rating (G1159). The GIV and GV are seperate types (not quite sure how they are integrated with the 350, 450, 550).
 

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G-II / G-III = G-1159
G-IV = G-IV
G-V = G-V, G-400, G-450, G-500, G-550

So by this reasoning, the G-V type is the one to have.
 

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G1159 covers GII & GIII

G-IV covers the G-IV, G-300, G-400

G-V covers G-V, G-350, G-450, G-550

Hope that helps...........
 

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Might have a chance at a G2 type and want to know if it's worth much anymore.

Thanks

Just depends on where you are and who you know. If you can fly 12-15 days a month contract you can make very nice money. I have a few friends here that fly them 12-15 days a month and they make $750/day. SIC's are making $500-$600/day. About $130,000/year for PIC with a good amount of days off per month. And if they want to fly more they can.
 

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By Jeb Burnside, Newswriter, Editor





Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation announced this week that the FAA will allow its two newest aircraft -- the long-range G450 and mid-range G350 -- to share the same pilot type rating with the company's ultra-long-range models, the G550 and G500. Since the G550 and GV already share the same type rating, the GV pilot rating will apply to the four new aircraft as well. GV pilots will be authorized to fly the G500 and G350 aircraft upon completion of a five-day "differences" course that highlights the PlaneView™ flight deck. GV pilots who are not already qualified on the Gulfstream Enhanced Vision System (EVS) will also be required to complete 14 hours of training on the Head-Up Display (HUD) and the EVS to fly the G550 and G450, both of which include EVS as standard equipment. All pilot training is offered at FlightSafety International in Savannah, Gulfstream's preferred provider of crew-training services. Europe's Joint Aviation Authorities (JAA) is expected to announce a similar ruling in the near future. "We are delighted the FAA agreed that the G450 and G350 will share the same pilot type rating as our ultra-long-range jets," said Bryan Moss, Gulfstream's president. "A number of our customers operate multiple Gulfstream aircraft, each with its unique price and performance point, to meet their varying travel needs. Now with the shared pilot type rating, they can do so without having to ‘match pilots to aircraft' or spend additional time and money to retrain already well-trained pilots." The first G550 was delivered to its owner in September 2003 while the first delivery of a G500 is expected later this month. Gulfstream introduced the G450 at the 2003 NBAA annual convention; five months later, the G350 was unveiled at the 2004 Asian Aerospace exhibition in Singapore
 

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Gulfstream G2 Type

Hey,

Thanks a lot. That helps clarify things for me. I have a G100 type so maybe I'll start adding to my "shopping cart". Still, I can't imagine the G2's, G3's will be around much longer, but I've been saying that about the 20 series Learjet for the last 10 years......

Like you say, the GV seems to be the one to have, if you can swing it.

Fly Safe!
 

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Just depends on where you are and who you know. If you can fly 12-15 days a month contract you can make very nice money. I have a few friends here that fly them 12-15 days a month and they make $750/day. SIC's are making $500-$600/day. About $130,000/year for PIC with a good amount of days off per month. And if they want to fly more they can.

Most G-IV and G-V can make between $900/day domestic and $1500/day international. If they are typed they should be differentating between PIC and SIC.

Heck, guys that are 7X qual'd are charging $2000/day.

Do not sell yourself short. Anyone can give away their services.
 

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Most G-IV and G-V can make between $900/day domestic and $1500/day international. If they are typed they should be differentating between PIC and SIC.

Heck, guys that are 7X qual'd are charging $2000/day.

Do not sell yourself short. Anyone can give away their services.

He was asking about the "G2". $750/day is going rate for PIC. $550 or so is SIC.
 

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Like you say, the GV seems to be the one to have, if you can swing it.

Fly Safe!

GII and GIII will be around for a long time.

But yes, if you can get the GV, its the best one to have without a doubt. Get the Global type and you'll have more work than you can handle too.
 

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But yes, if you can get the GV, its the best one to have without a doubt. Get the Global type and you'll have more work than you can handle too.

I'd do a little more research before I went out and plunked down $47K (or whatever the going rack rate is) for a GV or Global type rating. Either are a great rating to have, but without some time in type you're going to find contract work difficult to come by.
 

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G-II / G-III = G-1159
G-IV = G-IV
G-V = G-V, G-400, G-450, G-500, G-550

So by this reasoning, the G-V type is the one to have.

Sure, if you have $40k to loan yourself! You almost can't go wrong with any G type rating. You will make more in the Vs (and the 3 4 and 550s) but it will cost more for the type. Work seems easier to come by for the G-IV guys, there are over (rough estimate here) 600 in service which is why its easier. You can get a great deal in on the IV type if you go through certain company's training program. Work in the G-II and III is easier to get with no time in type--that said it also comes down to who you know.

PIC's in G-II and III get about $650-800 per day, SIC's anywhere from $500-650. Good luck!
 

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I'd do a little more research before I went out and plunked down $47K (or whatever the going rack rate is) for a GV or Global type rating. Either are a great rating to have, but without some time in type you're going to find contract work difficult to come by.

Some friends recently bought their G550 types and they are all doing quite well. In a matter of 4 months they all paid for their types and now they are just banking the cash. They had zero Gulfstream experience. The types are going back up a bit in price but they paid in the mid $30's for GV/ with 550 and 450 differences included.
 

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Some friends recently bought their G550 types and they are all doing quite well. In a matter of 4 months they all paid for their types and now they are just banking the cash. They had zero Gulfstream experience. The types are going back up a bit in price but they paid in the mid $30's for GV/ with 550 and 450 differences included.

Probably the exception rather than the rule. :)
 

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Probably the exception rather than the rule. :)

Florida must be operating on a different economy than the rest of the US right now.

Too much GV/GLEX work and not enough pilots to go around.


:laugh:
 

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Probably the exception rather than the rule. :)

Its all overseas flying, but who cares. They go away for 20-30 days and come home for 15-20 days. Nothing wrong with that.

This country might be going down the drain, the rest of the world is doing great.
 

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Florida must be operating on a different economy than the rest of the US right now.

Has nothing to do with Florida, there's a ton of contract work overseas for Globals and G's. I have 3 friends that got laid off this week who fly Globals Part 91, they're going directly into contract flying and will make more than they did at their 91 salary job.

You should get a book and learn how to network, maybe you can do some contract work some day if the need arises.
 

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A G200 type rating would be very valuable right now!

I don't believe that. It use to be. Check www.flycontract.com and see how many G200 guys are looking for work.

I have a G200 Type with 600 hours in type and current and I am unemployed.

Valuable - Maybe.

very Valuable - NOT

Besides a type without any time in type isn't worth much no matter what aircraft.
 
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