General Lee
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banger said:General
Your post has many inaccuracies. I can try to point some of them out. You mention not hearing much outrage. Well I'm not sure outrage is a good word for it but I can assure you many of the pilots here were very upset. We had meeting with management and listened to them. For the most part we do trust our management. They told us their plan and it was logical and made sense. They asked for our trust and to give it time. Many times I hear you and others mention the 12 year Capt rate. Well we don't have 12 yr Capt's!! Our Management (who we trust) asked us to give it time, see how the 190 works, and if it works as well as everyone thinks the money will come. Then why even post a 12 year rate you ask? Because to have access to investor income they needed some type of future numbers. I don't think you can accept this answer because I don't think you can understand trusting Management and I accept that.
As far as selling the "unborn" jetBlue pilots away, well Management has said nobody will be forced on the 190. And so far the bids for the 190 have gone very senior. Suprisingly new hire classes are filling up about evenly for volunteers in each type.
General, I'm a furloughed DAL guy. I see the greenslipping, I see the Contract pilots, I read the furloughees complaining about how DALPA sold them down the drain. I've flown with both pilot groups and they are great guys, Sorta bothers me when either group bashes the other.
You complaining about the jetBlue pilots 190 wages is the same about me complaining to you about going into BK. Its a waste of time.
Sorry to hear you were furloughed at DL. As far as what went on at JB within the ranks, well, it wasn't broadcasted onver Flightinfo or any other website I know of. All we saw was the pi$$poor rates and that was it, very little reaction. As far as people getting to choose which plane, well, that is good. And, as far as the greenslipping and PRPs, well, you should know that with a 24 hour retirement notice, people tend to bail quickly without much notice. What is Delta to do? Just cancel 50 flights for the first few days of each month after 200 pilots suddenly retire? We would have had to park every widebody. The PRP program, though not something I want around any longer than anyone else, saved this airline by allowing flights to continue while we weeded out Captains with lump sums. That is what you NEED to have when the contract allows 24 hour notice on retirements. Now that they have subsided, along with the pensions, there should be more consistancy with flights and knowing with LCA will stay to give IOE's etc...
Bye Bye--General Lee
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