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Gojet grows...even though TSHoldings Broke!

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TurnandPull

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Curious that one week after citing serious financial problems at TSA to encourage us to extend our already 9 year old contract that it's revealed that Trans States Holdings can afford to take delivery of 6 brand new CRJ700s as well as hold options on 10 more.

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock News/2195367/

These orders were apparently placed almost a year ago in a very different financial climate; but are we truly expected to believe that Trans States Airlines is on the verge of going broke but that Trans States HOLDINGS has $207 Million dollars laying around to cut a deal like this!?!

Is this Holdings way of announcing to us that we have no influence over their acquisition of more aircraft at Gojet? If so though, how will they continue to push a contract extension with no scope or job-protection at us under the threat of bankruptcy and catastrophe? Or was it not even their intention to have this information revealed?

I believe this signals the beginning of the endgame of this entire situation. TSH has been invited to speak with a small group of level-headed and highly respected pilots on behalf of TSA-ALPA with the intention of proposing a zero-cost way of solving this whole mess: Become a SINGLE CARRIER in the eyes of the NMB. As of now they still have not responded to our invitation to clear this whole mess up and put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

We are willing to pay a price to piece this company back together again and move forward in the same way as Chataugua/Shuttle/Republic or Colgan/Pinnacle. Only as one united labour group can TSH regain the respect of the industry and re-aquire the financing necessary to move forward in a rapidly evolving marketplace. Continuing to posture and bicker over pennies will only put this Single Carrier even further behind our stronger competitors. With a mutually sought single carrier determination we can put up fences, merge the lists in the fairest way possible under ALPA merger policies, and put behind us the mutually destructive relationship we've (both sides) built over the last decade.
 
Yeah that sounds about like something TSH would do...
 
if TSA got single carrier status that would mean the pilot group ultimately won, right albeit after a certain degree of sacrifice? TSA mgmnt prob not willing to do that--- will their pride continually increase their ongoing collateral damage- yep.

SKIPPY
 
I think this is nothing more than a management scare tactic towards our pilot group. This order was placed almost a year ago, to an "unidentified" party. Now, TSH chooses to reveal to the public that it was them? C'mon, the timing of this stinks, it's so blatantly obvious. The company is trying to scare the TSA pilots into submission of their "bridge" agreement by making us think they have their financing lined up again. They don't. GoJet will NOT grow until TSA pilots have some sort of stability/contract.
 
Do you seriously think the Gojet pilots would go for the merging of our pilot groups? After all the hatred, trust me- not a chance. Good luck though guys, hope it all works out for you.
 
Well, it's probably going to come down to merge the lists (with a stapler for GJ i hope) or shut the place down, so...trust me- it's possible.
 
... are we truly expected to believe that Trans States Airlines is on the verge of going broke but that Trans States HOLDINGS has $207 Million dollars laying around to cut a deal like this!?!
Anybody remember MAIR? These holding company managers should be tarred and feathered.


We are willing to pay a price to piece this company back together again and move forward in the same way as Chataugua/Shuttle/Republic or Colgan/Pinnacle.
Unfortunately, sounds like what Mesa/Freedom were willing to do, to the detriment of the entire industry. Be careful what price you are willing to pay. Agreeing to any contract that is less than at least industry average will result in changing the "Mesa sucks" campaign to "TSA sucks" in a hurry.
 
Because there seems to be quite a few naysayers that believe that the Gojet pilot group would have something to say about an NMB "Single Carrier" determination; let me explain the process to you.

1. Trans States Holdings and TSA/ALPA jointly would request the National Mediation Board determine that the Holding Co. was being operated as a single carrier.

2. The NMB would immediatly comply with this joint request because they'd love to get our butts off their docket and stop wasting their time. Also TSA will be the next case in their books to go to self-help and they would like to avoid this if at all possible.

3. At that time the NMB would count the number of pilots on both lists (including furloughees) and decide whether a vote will be required to determine who the joint collective bargaining agent will be. If one group outnumbers the other by a certain margine than no vote would be required and the NMB would impose the majority agent on the minority group.

4. In our case ALPA would be declared the de facto collective bargaining agent of the joint pilot group and ALPAs merger policies would begin. This could go well... Delta/Northwest, Pinnacle/Colgan or it could go very bad... USair/America West. Worst case scenario it goes to binding arbitration after 3 or 4 months and we all live with the results.

5. The company and ALPA would jointly agree to establish equipment fences and transfer protocols that would minimize the training cost impact on the company. Furloughed TSA pilots would be poured into the new metal coming to Gojet and all current Gojet pilots would be safe in their seats regardless of seniority until the fences come down.

And that's it folks. Anyone who's under the impression that we need to negotiate with or ask permission to go ahead with this from the Gojet pilots just has no fraking idea how the Railway Labour Act works. And if you think that TSHoldings will shoot this down to protect your dumb asses well you're even more naive than I thought. The Holding company is going to do what's in it's best financial interests... and right now that is sucking it up and rebuilding this dump back into a functioning 2 airlines with a merged seniority list. Folks like David are going to have to be content with the small win we're offering them rather than the big win of putting us all on the street.
 

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