Go to Jetblue?

[pilotpayne]

Did you get a look at the latest system bid awards?

I think he was talking about spirit

 

[Flyby1206]

I think he was talking about spirit

Oops, well I wouldn't be surprised to see ours go to Jan 2011 DOH too

 

[pilotpayne]

Oops, well I wouldn't be surprised to see ours go to Jan 2011 DOH too

It might....but maybe all the super senior fos will upgrade now.
I guess we will find out soon.

 

[Cornelius]

This board would be the last place to go if I were looking for career advice. On that note, I would not leave NJ to go to JB.

 

[$$$4nothin]

How about who would leave JB for NJ. Live anywhere you want. Never commute again. Good medical bennies. It might be a tough decision for the furloughed NJ guys here at JB when the time comes to decide to go back.

 

[Baronman]

I 2nd that. This is a terrible place to seek advice. The guys who dislike jB, eat, breath and live it. It's like a full time job inside and outside of work.

Funny thing is I heard the same thing for 7 years re: United and CAL.

 

[Splert]

Day 2 new hire quit to go to CAL.

How many at CAL new hires are coming to Blue?

Only those that fail training?

 

[B6Driver]

The person could of lived in a CAL/ United base or any number of things that made their decision to switch. One fact to consider, do a search of Splerts past postings and see where he comes from. I'm just say'n. How does he know these things? On my days off I sure as *hit ain't worried about work, that's for sure.:beer:

 

[Smarta$$]

Day 2 new hire quit to go to CAL.

How many at CAL new hires are coming to Blue?

Only those that fail training?

None. Are you telling me that we could do something as pilots to make people leave legacy airlines to come to JetBlue?

We are a 2nd rate airline, and if we get a union, we will still be a 2nd rate airline. We will never have the retirements and high paying widebody fleets within any foreseeable timeframe. That coupled with our slow growth means very little career advancement. No union can fix that.

 

[B6Driver]

Slow growth?

 

[Splert]

The person could of lived in a CAL/ United base or any number of things that made their decision to switch. One fact to consider, do a search of Splerts past postings and see where he comes from. I'm just say'n. How does he know these things? On my days off I sure as *hit ain't worried about work, that's for sure.:beer:

So you are saying no one just left training on thier second day?

Sorry but this fact is the sand in your vagina.

You still have recall to APA right! Good for you.

 

[Splert]

None. Are you telling me that we could do something as pilots to make people leave legacy airlines to come to JetBlue

Wtf are you mumbling?

I thought you pushed the ignore button.

Push it again and when you make more sense feel free to post again.

 

[Smarta$$]

Wtf are you mumbling?

I thought you pushed the ignore button.

Push it again and when you make more sense feel free to post again.

1. I never put you on the ignore list, that was other people. I am think you are becoming confused by all the people who think you are a d-bag.

2. You're whole mission in life is a union at JB. You are trying to say that people are leaving JB for legacy airlines because our non-union pay and benefits are less than that of the legacy airlines. The truth is that there are many reasons to leave JB for a legacy, and higher pay and benefits is only HALF the story. No union can increase our retirement attrition or force the company to buy large fleets of widebody aircraft.

 

[Splert]

Hey SWA, does 40% of your pilot group have applications out to other carriers?

You don't have wide bodies and according to Rob M and Smarta$$ your rate of attrition should he huge. After all, pilots only want to fly bigger things and upgrade.

Maybe you don't have 40% of your pilots looking to leave because you have real leadership and QOL.

 

[Smarta$$]

Hey SWA, does 40% of your pilot group have applications out to other carriers?

You don't have wide bodies and according to Rob M and Smarta$$ your rate of attrition should he huge. After all, pilots only want to fly bigger things and upgrade.

Maybe you don't have 40% of your pilots looking to leave because you have real leadership and QOL.

Actually, there is considerable discussion in the SWA threads about junior SWA/AT pilots leaving for Legacy airlines.

As far as your 40%, I wasn't going to say this publicly, but since you are being such a D-bag, I am one of those who said on the survey that I was applying elsewhere, even though I have NOT. I am VERY certain that I am not alone. Every pilot who took that survey knew full well that data point would be used as a negotiating position or demonstration of disattisfaction. To take it literally is to be a complete fool. Most airlines are now hiring or will soon be. Lets see if 40% of JB pilots leave. But you will have all kinds of excuses when nowhere near 40% of our existing pilots leave...

 

[Splert]

I am one of those who said on the survey that I was applying elsewhere, even though I have NOT. I am VERY certain that I am not alone. Every pilot who took that survey knew full well that data point would be used as a negotiating position or demonstration of disattisfaction. To take it literally is to be a complete fool.

An anonymous liar. Interesting.

A Jetblue pilot does not negotiate and leadership does not give two $hits about dissatisfaction or attrition.

Any other myths you want to make the central point of your excuse matrix?

 

[Smarta$$]

An anonymous liar. Interesting.

A Jetblue pilot does not negotiate and leadership does not give two $hits about dissatisfaction or attrition.

Any other myths you want to make the central point of your excuse matrix?

Say what ever you want. I am PROOF positive that your data is invalid/inaccurate.

I will now wait for you to tell me that I am not a JB pilot, and only work in corporate....

 

[Splert]

40% less 1 (liar) have applications out to the other airlines.

Fixed the data!

 

[SAABaroowski]

How can you compare your upgrade times to Spirit? They aren't even in your "peer set".

Huh? Both LCC, of course one has a good contract and 3 year upgrades a decent health care and multiple bases........

 

[CapnVegetto]

Actually, there is considerable discussion in the SWA threads about junior SWA/AT pilots leaving for Legacy airlines.

As far as your 40%, I wasn't going to say this publicly, but since you are being such a D-bag, I am one of those who said on the survey that I was applying elsewhere, even though I have NOT. I am VERY certain that I am not alone. Every pilot who took that survey knew full well that data point would be used as a negotiating position or demonstration of disattisfaction. To take it literally is to be a complete fool. Most airlines are now hiring or will soon be. Lets see if 40% of JB pilots leave. But you will have all kinds of excuses when nowhere near 40% of our existing pilots leave...

A valid point, but then you have to look at it from the other side of the coin? How many of the other 60% didn't put that in either? How many of the 20% "unsure" people did?

It goes both ways, so in the end, it probably balances out.