Go to Jetblue?

[Splert]

The person could of lived in a CAL/ United base or any number of things that made their decision to switch. One fact to consider, do a search of Splerts past postings and see where he comes from. I'm just say'n. How does he know these things? On my days off I sure as *hit ain't worried about work, that's for sure.:beer:

So you are saying no one just left training on thier second day?

Sorry but this fact is the sand in your vagina.

You still have recall to APA right! Good for you.

 

[Splert]

None. Are you telling me that we could do something as pilots to make people leave legacy airlines to come to JetBlue

Wtf are you mumbling?

I thought you pushed the ignore button.

Push it again and when you make more sense feel free to post again.

 

[Smarta$$]

Wtf are you mumbling?

I thought you pushed the ignore button.

Push it again and when you make more sense feel free to post again.

1. I never put you on the ignore list, that was other people. I am think you are becoming confused by all the people who think you are a d-bag.

2. You're whole mission in life is a union at JB. You are trying to say that people are leaving JB for legacy airlines because our non-union pay and benefits are less than that of the legacy airlines. The truth is that there are many reasons to leave JB for a legacy, and higher pay and benefits is only HALF the story. No union can increase our retirement attrition or force the company to buy large fleets of widebody aircraft.

 

[Splert]

Hey SWA, does 40% of your pilot group have applications out to other carriers?

You don't have wide bodies and according to Rob M and Smarta$$ your rate of attrition should he huge. After all, pilots only want to fly bigger things and upgrade.

Maybe you don't have 40% of your pilots looking to leave because you have real leadership and QOL.

 

[Smarta$$]

Hey SWA, does 40% of your pilot group have applications out to other carriers?

You don't have wide bodies and according to Rob M and Smarta$$ your rate of attrition should he huge. After all, pilots only want to fly bigger things and upgrade.

Maybe you don't have 40% of your pilots looking to leave because you have real leadership and QOL.

Actually, there is considerable discussion in the SWA threads about junior SWA/AT pilots leaving for Legacy airlines.

As far as your 40%, I wasn't going to say this publicly, but since you are being such a D-bag, I am one of those who said on the survey that I was applying elsewhere, even though I have NOT. I am VERY certain that I am not alone. Every pilot who took that survey knew full well that data point would be used as a negotiating position or demonstration of disattisfaction. To take it literally is to be a complete fool. Most airlines are now hiring or will soon be. Lets see if 40% of JB pilots leave. But you will have all kinds of excuses when nowhere near 40% of our existing pilots leave...

 

[Splert]

I am one of those who said on the survey that I was applying elsewhere, even though I have NOT. I am VERY certain that I am not alone. Every pilot who took that survey knew full well that data point would be used as a negotiating position or demonstration of disattisfaction. To take it literally is to be a complete fool.

An anonymous liar. Interesting.

A Jetblue pilot does not negotiate and leadership does not give two $hits about dissatisfaction or attrition.

Any other myths you want to make the central point of your excuse matrix?

 

[Smarta$$]

An anonymous liar. Interesting.

A Jetblue pilot does not negotiate and leadership does not give two $hits about dissatisfaction or attrition.

Any other myths you want to make the central point of your excuse matrix?

Say what ever you want. I am PROOF positive that your data is invalid/inaccurate.

I will now wait for you to tell me that I am not a JB pilot, and only work in corporate....

 

[Splert]

40% less 1 (liar) have applications out to the other airlines.

Fixed the data!

 

[SAABaroowski]

How can you compare your upgrade times to Spirit? They aren't even in your "peer set".

Huh? Both LCC, of course one has a good contract and 3 year upgrades a decent health care and multiple bases........

 

[CapnVegetto]

Actually, there is considerable discussion in the SWA threads about junior SWA/AT pilots leaving for Legacy airlines.

As far as your 40%, I wasn't going to say this publicly, but since you are being such a D-bag, I am one of those who said on the survey that I was applying elsewhere, even though I have NOT. I am VERY certain that I am not alone. Every pilot who took that survey knew full well that data point would be used as a negotiating position or demonstration of disattisfaction. To take it literally is to be a complete fool. Most airlines are now hiring or will soon be. Lets see if 40% of JB pilots leave. But you will have all kinds of excuses when nowhere near 40% of our existing pilots leave...

A valid point, but then you have to look at it from the other side of the coin? How many of the other 60% didn't put that in either? How many of the 20% "unsure" people did?

It goes both ways, so in the end, it probably balances out.

 

[Smarta$$]

A valid point, but then you have to look at it from the other side of the coin? How many of the other 60% didn't put that in either? How many of the 20% "unsure" people did?

It goes both ways, so in the end, it probably balances out.

Disagree. That was your chance to tell management that they better improve pay and benefits or you are leaving (anonymously). From a pilots perspective, there is much more gain to bluff leaving than there is to so NO when you really are leaving.

You and I agree on most things. I am NOT defending JB. I am sick and tired of SPLERT being irrational.

Question for Splert:

If JB voted in ALPA tomorrow and we immediately sign the same contract as CAL/UAL, if you were offered jobs at BOTH airlines at the same time, which would you take and why?

 

[Smarta$$]

40% less 1 (liar) have applications out to the other airlines.

Fixed the data!

Yeah, you are right, I am the only one to bluff management.... In fact, you won't admit it, but I GUARANTEE you said yes to that question, and I also GUARANTEE you do NOT leave JB.

As I said before, to take that survey at face value is to be a fool.

 

[Smarta$$]

Huh? Both LCC, of course one has a good contract and 3 year upgrades a decent health care and multiple bases........

Splert, and most other JB pilots do NOT want your airline added to our peerset because your pay rates are so bad. Mind your own business big shot, your job isn't as impressive as you think.

 

[1.3XVso]

Splert, and most other JB pilots do NOT want your airline added to our peerset because your pay rates are so bad. Mind your own business big shot, your job isn't as impressive as you think.

Compensates for your messed up medical insurance. Dude why do you get so defensive when they talk about jetblue? Please go apply to a major and come back here and be my entertainment. I sure hope we were not friends at pinnacle.

 

[SAABaroowski]

Splert, and most other JB pilots do NOT want your airline added to our peerset because your pay rates are so bad. Mind your own business big shot, your job isn't as impressive as you think.

Muwahahahahahah ******************************bag, our Pay rights are right on par with yours, however our W2s are considerably higher.

Anyway, I'll be a CA in 3 years so suck it