Go Jet

[temcgrew]

...and he went on a 3 minute monologue about how quick the upgrade will be and how he'll be at a major way before any of the other clowns at other regionals......................... he said something along the lines that not if his "hookup" at CAL has anything to say about it. I actually smiled...he was so delightfully oblivious...
Mookie

Classic reasoning, but he doesn't realize what he did to all of the "CLOWNS" and thier families who have been at Trans States for years who then had to endure displacment and pay cuts.
Does he think that the regionals only employ zit faced back pack wearing Ipoders? (no offense of course)
Alot of the captains have families, kids in college, etc....It's not always a stepping stone job.

Those of us who were lucky enough fled in such high numbers that they now have to hire guys without thier commercial ticket.

 

[BCpilot81]

Go-Jets. If any of you are cowardly reading this and saying only to yourselves,"They never act like this in person....Oh, such big talk, etc." I actually make it a point to let you know what a cur you are to the industry every time I see your crews in PWM at the Sheraton. In your small print badges, and EAL stickers.

 

[PCL_128]

eaaaaasy boys!!!!!! keep it professional.

GoJet SCABs are not professionals, and they don't deserve to be treated as professionals. They can burn in hell for all I care.

 

[pilotbrain]

scabs? that Funny.... PCL your A fag.

 

[siucavflight]

Why do the GO-Jet crews have United Crew bag tags?

 

[CX880]

When are any of you gojets going to share any info about your contract so that you can have at least some dignity.

 

[Foxcow]

When are any of you gojets going to share any info about your contract so that you can have at least some dignity.

Because their 5 and a half year agreement is a disgrace.


From another forum:

Grievance policy, if airline does not follow contract (?!!??)
Commuter Policy, If pilot cannot commute to work

Negative Highlights :
5 1/2 Year Agreement (!!!!)

100% Pay Guarantee only if
Completion factor is above 98%

Only 10 day off minimum
Pay scale limited to 15 year longevity
First Officer Pay Rates inline with 37 seat aircraft
(from airline pilot central: 1=$23, 2=$30, 3=$34, $35)
Captain Pay Rates inline with 50 seat aircraft
(again, apc: 1=$60 2= $61, 3=$63, 4=$65, 5=$66, 10=$77, 15(top)=$90)

No mention of scope.

 

[CX880]

Because their 5 and a half year agreement is a disgrace.


From another forum:

Wow, that sucks especially the pay.

 

[iflyformoney!]

What are we talking about?

If AA or UA or NWA, or DL or maybe even SWA(maybe they have already done it with ATA), who flys BIG planes, decides to get BIGGER planes, and decides to hire another group to fly them for half pay, then.......................?

I couldn't even imagine the uproar within these groups. The world, as we know it would end, and nobody would be flying. NO FLIGHTS!!!!

"Capt. One, I'm terribly sorry but we will not be able to allow you to upgrade to the new B-XXX because you cost too much and we will be hiring Captains off the street at 1/4 pay to fly your seat."

Cost control you know!

 

[TxPilot0878]

I have one question??? 1st of all I have been around for a while and I remember Comair getting its 1st jet!
Now number 1....if you are even trying to sound intelligent...WHO CROSSED A F***ING PICKET LINE???
.....the true definition of a "SCAB!"

Next why are the only people calling GOJETS SCABS....are guys with ERJ/135/140/145/CL-65/CRJ in their profiles???

I don't work there nor do I know anyone that does....so I am just trying to make a point!

Point is there is no one at the majors making a big deal about it!?!?!? Most honor JS agreements and don't care.........CARE TO GUESS WHY????

Because when you come right down to it WE all took whatever job we could...and if not and you are a regional pilot....YOU DEFINITELY took a job at a company that payed you an unheard amount (POVERTY/PITY PAY at best) at the Majors. EVERY Major guy could write off every Regional pilot in the industry for this very fact.!!!

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT COOL!!! But don't throw around a term that had meaning twenty years before you were in the Olympic Swim Team for life.

RICKY83....take whatever job you can get.....none undercut the other...they all pay S*** and you just have to live with the consequences as life goes on....HALF THE FUN I THINK. Weigh the options from the airlines that call you back and go!

But you won't be doing what the rest of the 98% of us on this board haven't done.

Good Trip and Good Luck,

Tex

 

[Foxcow]

I have one question??? 1st of all I have been around for a while and I remember Comair getting its 1st jet!
Now number 1....if you are even trying to sound intelligent...WHO CROSSED A F***ING PICKET LINE???
.....the true definition of a "SCAB!"

Next why are the only people calling GOJETS SCABS....are guys with ERJ/135/140/145/CL-65/CRJ in their profiles???

I don't work there nor do I know anyone that does....so I am just trying to make a point!

Point is there is no one at the majors making a big deal about it!?!?!? Most honor JS agreements and don't care.........CARE TO GUESS WHY????

Because when you come right down to it WE all took whatever job we could...and if not and you are a regional pilot....YOU DEFINITELY took a job at a company that payed you an unheard amount (POVERTY/PITY PAY at best) at the Majors. EVERY Major guy could write off every Regional pilot in the industry for this very fact.!!!

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT COOL!!! But don't throw around a term that had meaning twenty years before you were in the Olympic Swim Team for life.

RICKY83....take whatever job you can get.....none undercut the other...they all pay S*** and you just have to live with the consequences as life goes on....HALF THE FUN I THINK. Weigh the options from the airlines that call you back and go!

But you won't be doing what the rest of the 98% of us on this board haven't done.

Good Trip and Good Luck,

Tex

I fail to understand why just because some people at the majors don't care that we should stop caring? There are a lot of people at the majors that do care. Also, it is extremely short sighted because the majors have hired/are hiring/will hire people from the regionals. You do the math.

 

[WSurf]

Next why are the only people calling GOJETS SCABS....are guys with ERJ/135/140/145/CL-65/CRJ in their profiles???

Okay, I will start! I fly a Dash 8 and even I don't believe they are scabs....... They sure are close (Scabish maybe?).

With all the regionals hiring, people need to do some research before they expect to take a jump at GoJets, Mesa and some others out there.

Remember why GoJets was formed!

 

[siucavflight]

Next why are the only people calling GOJETS SCABS....are guys with ERJ/135/140/145/CL-65/CRJ in their profiles???

That was probably the least intelligent question ever.
Go-Jets flies CRJs, so they affect those of us at the regionals, that is why we care. And the majors dont care? Are you serious? Plenty of AA guys wont let the Go-Jets guys anywhere close to their jumpseat.
And we all may have a few more planes listed in our profiles if we had taken the time to fill out every aircraft we have ever set foot in like you did.

Go-Jets suck!

 

[nwa_contrails]

Why do the GO-Jet crews have United Crew bag tags?

Story I heard was that the rampers loyal to TSA were spotting the "GOJET CREW" tags when they were unloading the carryons and sending the bags to baggage claim while the crew continued on, so they were given United tags to make them not stand out.

Even if it's not true...still pretty funny. I'd love to see those f*ags get to the overnight and not have ANYTHING...because that's what they deserve.

Guck Fo-Jets

 

[WSurf]

Story I heard was that the rampers loyal to TSA were spotting the "GOJET CREW" tags when they were unloading the carryons and sending the bags to baggage claim while the crew continued on, so they were given United tags to make them not stand out.

Even if it's not true...still pretty funny. I'd love to see those f*ags get to the overnight and not have ANYTHING...because that's what they deserve.

Guck Fo-Jets

Classic!

 

[siucavflight]

Story I heard was that the rampers loyal to TSA were spotting the "GOJET CREW" tags when they were unloading the carryons and sending the bags to baggage claim while the crew continued on, so they were given United tags to make them not stand out.

Even if it's not true...still pretty funny. I'd love to see those f*ags get to the overnight and not have ANYTHING...because that's what they deserve.

Guck Fo-Jets

Thats funny as he!!, and it is the only thing that makes sense, I wonder what the UAL crews think of this.

 

[redbook]

I have one question??? 1st of all I have been around for a while and I remember Comair getting its 1st jet!
Now number 1....if you are even trying to sound intelligent...WHO CROSSED A F***ING PICKET LINE???
.....the true definition of a "SCAB!"

Next why are the only people calling GOJETS SCABS....are guys with ERJ/135/140/145/CL-65/CRJ in their profiles???

I don't work there nor do I know anyone that does....so I am just trying to make a point!

Point is there is no one at the majors making a big deal about it!?!?!? Most honor JS agreements and don't care.........CARE TO GUESS WHY????

Because when you come right down to it WE all took whatever job we could...and if not and you are a regional pilot....YOU DEFINITELY took a job at a company that payed you an unheard amount (POVERTY/PITY PAY at best) at the Majors. EVERY Major guy could write off every Regional pilot in the industry for this very fact.!!!

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT COOL!!! But don't throw around a term that had meaning twenty years before you were in the Olympic Swim Team for life.

RICKY83....take whatever job you can get.....none undercut the other...they all pay S*** and you just have to live with the consequences as life goes on....HALF THE FUN I THINK. Weigh the options from the airlines that call you back and go!

But you won't be doing what the rest of the 98% of us on this board haven't done.

Good Trip and Good Luck,

Tex

Newbie,

You will get straightened out at air wisky.

Good luck.

 

[Farfugnügen]

Story I heard was that the rampers loyal to TSA were spotting the "GOJET CREW" tags when they were unloading the carryons and sending the bags to baggage claim while the crew continued on, so they were given United tags to make them not stand out.

Even if it's not true...still pretty funny. I'd love to see those f*ags get to the overnight and not have ANYTHING...because that's what they deserve.

Guck Fo-Jets

That's awesome! F'em and F'GoJets.

 

[BoDEAN]

I don't know why all the hate with GoJETS either.
Use them to get to work a lot. Granted there is not a lot of experience sometimes in the cockpit due to quick upgrade times (maybe a safety issue) but living in St Louis, it's them or Trans States if I ever want to get a job with a local base =/

 

[Edge540]

I don't know why all the hate with GoJETS either.

You should do some more research, and maybe take some pride in your profession.

but living in St Louis, it's them or Trans States if I ever want to get a job with a local base =/

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/republic.html




...

 

[BoDEAN]

Nice. Thanks for the info.

You should do some more research, and maybe take some pride in your profession.

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/republic.html




...

 

[temcgrew]

On the way to an overnight last week on Washington Center, I heard "lindburgh" check in and the center controller asked him why the callsign was changed. After the explanation from the gojet guy someone broke in and said "it should be changed to waterski".

 

[Rekks Inbound]

Actually, I do have an understanding of labor relations. I didn't undercut anyone coming here. They (Tsa pilots) had every opportunity to come here as I. But, they chose to NOT do this flying. It was their choice just as it was my choice. I hope they all have Dario on their Christmas card list. Keep up the hate though. I find it most entertaining.

Actually, *%&khead, you did. Your wonderful new 'contract' is pitiful. Your payrates are less, year by year, than our concessionary rates are on a 50 seater! (AWAC) And we would have loved to keep flying for UAL. The TSA guys DID want the flying, but not at the piss poor rates whores like you were willing to accept. You may not be a scab, but you might actually be worse; at least a scab makes very few excuses, but doesn't deny their actions. You live in denial, lies and delusion, which should disqualify you for an airman's medical.

Whore.

Rekks

 

[apache]

Rekks, you are my new hero. Well said.

 

[PCL_128]

I don't know why all the hate with GoJETS either.
Use them to get to work a lot. Granted there is not a lot of experience sometimes in the cockpit due to quick upgrade times (maybe a safety issue) but living in St Louis, it's them or Trans States if I ever want to get a job with a local base =/

Guess you better go to work for TSA or learn to commute for a while unless you want to be a dirty pseudo-SCAB, then. Go Jet pilots are actually worse that SCABs. At least a SCAB waits until you go on strike to steal your job.

 

[theo]

Guess you better go to work for TSA or learn to commute for a while unless you want to be a dirty pseudo-SCAB, then. Go Jet pilots are actually worse that SCABs. At least a SCAB waits until you go on strike to steal your job.

I will respond to this...GoJet pilots are just like every other regional pilot. The ALPA zealots like to call them names because it covers for the fact that ALPA had the opportunity to do this flying and because of miscalculations on their part they voted it down. Since it is expedient to blame others for your own actions they have put on a sham of outrage at the mean ole Gojet pilots. Facts don't change though. Gojet is as good an opportunity as any other regional to build time and move on. Don't let the zealots stand in the way of starting your career.

Also,

Dont let the Flightinfo crowd be an indicator of how the real population of pilots feel about Gojet. Most just don't care one way or the other. Contrary to what you hear on here. The best example to prove my point is the union drive at Colgan. If you had believed the rhetoric on FI the union was a sure winner there.....wrong....still no union. If you listen to the rhetoric now on Skywest you would think the union is a shoo in......my prediction...defeat for ALPA again. The point is this board is predominatly ALPA zealots.....they try to give the impression they speak for most pilots. The fact is they are a small minority of pilots in the real world. So take their threats and insults for what they are...a tempest in a teapot. Good luck with the job hunt and enjoy wherever you end up!

 

[Tram]

Dont let the Flightinfo crowd be an indicator of how the real population of pilots feel about Gojet. Most just don't care one way or the other.

That is directly related to the amount of people who even know who Trans States and GoJets are..

People who have no idea who they are cannot/will not care..

Once they find out the story, the situation becomes very similar to those here..

GoJets sucks..

 

[theo]

That is directly related to the amount of people who even know who Trans States and GoJets are..

People who have no idea who they are cannot/will not care..

Once they find out the story, the situation becomes very similar to those here..

GoJets sucks..

I know who they are and what the story is...The story can repeated for every regional airline out there, doing flying under a code share which was previously done by a major. This is no different. The zealots just want you to think its different to cover their own a$$ for screwing it up in the first place.

 

[flyboyzii]

Dear Trans States crybabies and sympathizers.........

What part of "Secure the flying THEN work on the pay issue" don't you understand??

Boo Hoo...put your pacifiers back in.

 

[lookin4better]

haha! your signature says it all ......could not be more true...glad im not sitting at the kiddie table anylonger