Gateway problems already lol......

[180ToTheMarker]

Do two wrongs make a right?

No, but three rights make a left.

 

[acaTerry]

Edited after giving it more thought...

 

[Simon Says]

So if the 'other side' breaks the rules, then you are permitted to do so also?
You are sounding more like a lib every day, PCL. Situational ethics, my friend, are a slippery slope.

Are you even a regional guy? If not go get a life and let us fight out battles how we like. If so then, I am so tired of hearing....oh, be professional. Don't block transmissions.....whatever. I absolutely hate everything Freedom and Blow Jets stand for. The pilots flying for them are scumbags and no one will ever change my mind. I have been in the Union/Company game too long to have anything but contempt for anybody wishing to fly for a union busting airline.

 

[Simon Says]

This thread should be required reading for anyone considering an aviation career. It shows the kind of childish attitudes that have taken over. Attitudes that allow justification of unsafe and unprofessional operations within the aircraft because of what goes on OUTSIDE the aircraft. All the petty, infantile crap should end when the door closes folks and you should act like trained professionals, not high school kids.

You need to stay out of this fight too. Blow Jets is set up solely to bust the TSA union..... I will block anytransmissions I want. Call me unprofessional all you want.

Any Blow jet pilots reading this I am ruthless and will smear your little queer arse into the wall if I see you walking in a terminal.....

 

[180ToTheMarker]

Just because somebody thinks blocking transmissions is not funny doesn't mean they support alter-egos. I agree that blo-jets sucks but blocking transmissions, especially at a place like ORD is silly and dangerous. If you wanna have words with a blo-jets pilot in the terminal then by all means give 'em hell but end it there, don't screw up ORD ground control.

 

[PCL_128]

Squirrel & 128--

What about the passengers in the back? When you or the children playing microphone games cause the gjet to miss a radio call and there is a violent fiery collision that claims lives (as they often do) are you going to say "but they weren't following the rules of TSA's CBA!". Do two wrongs make a right? I remember ......... sitting in the alley in MEM making animal sounds on ramp tower frequency during de-ice operations the first winter EXA had jets. Maybe it's just PCL culture. Speaking of which, don't you have enough problems at PCL, let alone in the red tail family, without looking for others?

Apparently you weren't paying attention. I already said that I'm not defending the actions of pilots that are blocking transmissions. I'm merely pointing out that the HoJets pilots are not innocent victims that we should feel sorry for. Of course pilots shouldn't be blocking radio transmissions. I agree with you on that.

 

[Inconceivable]

My appologies 128--I didn' think it sounded like you

 

[low-key]

Unfortunately this isnt the 80's or the 70's. I hear stories of pilots kicking scab workers asses on overnights..... <edit> BLOW JETS, Pseudo-Scabs!!!

 

[Flywrite]

You need to stay out of this fight too. Blow Jets is set up solely to bust the TSA union..... I will block anytransmissions I want. Call me unprofessional all you want.

Any Blow jet pilots reading this I am ruthless and will smear your little queer arse into the wall if I see you walking in a terminal.....

Wow...with mental giants like yourself going to bat for them the rank-and-file at TSA are in quite a pickle.

Good luck with your little war there bucky..I just hope for your sake it doesnt become a battle of wits.

It amazes me how many angry little morons inhabit the cockpits of our comercial transportation system.

 

[PCL_128]

My appologies 128--I didn' think it sounded like you

No problem.

 

[Bandit60]

WOW, after reading this thread, I am so glad that I am a corporate pilot and not with an airline. Using the word unprofessional is an understatement. You guys want the respect from your company's management but then you behave like this. No wonder why they treat you like they do.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves. (I am talking to those that commend this type of action).

 

[MJ42]

I can be one of the meanest, most vindictive, militant, left-wing anti-management types you'll ever meet.

Isn't that SOP for all liberals???

I have to agree with the rest of your post. Looking at this practically, there is a safty issue (at the very least dinging an aircraft). Also you interupt non hojet pilots that are waiting for taxi instructions further congesting a busy freq. Third, you are making ATC's job tougher. Finally, if they find out who is disrupting transmissions who knows what the FAA would do. Is your ticket worth a minor inconvenience to hojets taxi instructions?

I say if you decide to block transmitions then block them on OPS freq also make rampers aware of what they are doing to our industry, maybe we will get first priority from the rampers. Poor(er) service from rampers/como leads to further delays. There are many other ways to make their life harder, any other suggestions? Lets not stoop to their level, lets defeat them in an extremely agressive yet professional fight!

 

[labbats]

Should you tell it to the American rampers who got fired and then re-hired as Eagle for Eagle pay and benefits, or the other myriad of other rampers that were mainline and got the same treatment? Did we do anything to help them? I'd tell it to the United Express guys, but after two weeks, you'll have 100% turnover and just have to re-tell it.

 

[MJ42]

Should you tell it to the American rampers who got fired and then re-hired as Eagle for Eagle pay and benefits, or the other myriad of other rampers that were mainline and got the same treatment? Did we do anything to help them? I'd tell it to the United Express guys, but after two weeks, you'll have 100% turnover and just have to re-tell it.

Don't know what AA or Eagle has to do with United Express flights. Anyway as of a few days ago Mainline is handling all SKW flights, I'd presume they also handle Hojets. Maybe they won't give us any sympathy, but it's worth a try. Any constructive suggestions of your own?

 

[atrdriver]

Apparently you weren't paying attention. I already said that I'm not defending the actions of pilots that are blocking transmissions. I'm merely pointing out that the HoJets pilots are not innocent victims that we should feel sorry for. Of course pilots shouldn't be blocking radio transmissions. I agree with you on that.

They need to be given a blanket party. Each and every one of them.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

WOW, after reading this thread, I am so glad that I am a corporate pilot and not with an airline. Using the word unprofessional is an understatement. You guys want the respect from your company's management but then you behave like this. No wonder why they treat you like they do.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves. (I am talking to those that commend this type of action).

While I have my own reasons for being glad that I am no longer a corporate pilot, I still agree with your view on this matter. As much as I resent G0Jet pilots, I hope that no one from my airline was participating in such childish behavior. It is an embarassment to all regional pilots.

 

[say again]

While I have my own reasons for being glad that I am no longer a corporate pilot, I still agree with your view on this matter. As much as I resent G0Jet pilots, I hope that no one from my airline was participating in such childish behavior. It is an embarassment to all regional pilots.

No, *************************S and other airlines alike are an embarassment to the regional industry:smash: !!!!
It's not just regional pilots acting like this, it's ALL pilots. I remember this happening to MESA, CHQ, AirTran, etc.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

No, *************************S and other airlines alike are an embarassment to the regional industry:smash: !!!!
It's not just regional pilots acting like this, it's ALL pilots. I remember this happening to MESA, CHQ, AirTran, etc.

You remember people blocking AirTran on the radio? Or do you remember AirTran blocking others on the radio? Either way, please explain...I have no idea what you're talking about. As for Mesa and CHQ, they are regionals. I don't recall any instances where major airline pilots were blocking each other on ATC frequencies because of a labor dispute. We're not in college anymore folks. Grow up. You're making all of us 20 something year old regional pilots look like idiots.

 

[say again]

Try again

 

[blackbox]

You remember people blocking AirTran on the radio? Or do you remember AirTran blocking others on the radio? Either way, please explain...I have no idea what you're talking about. As for Mesa and CHQ, they are regionals. I don't recall any instances where major airline pilots were blocking each other on ATC frequencies because of a labor dispute. We're not in college anymore folks. Grow up. You're making all of us 20 something year old regional pilots look like idiots.

I wouldnt be too sure of that. I met a Republic Airlines FO last week. I guess RP got a lot of the Mid-Atlantic flying. He says when they are in Philly they get dirty looks in the terminals, spoken to innappropriately and they get their transmissions blocked constantly. If i am correct isnt Mid-Atlantic mostly furloughed US Airways pilots?

I thought it was funny when i first read this post, though I dont condone or encourage this type of stuiff, I do find it amusing. I am fairly new to the insdustry, but like some of the others mentioned this stuff has been happening for awhile and not at just the regional level.