Gary Kelly on ATL News

[dicko]

Not to get in the middle of you guys pissing contest, but it looks like this one has been deferred forever. I think SL8 just made sure there is no such thing as a deferred AirTran delivery schedule. Those airplanes belong to SWAPA pilots now.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/smartj...I'm going to return to my coloring books now.

 

[roughneck]

Unfortunately Roughneck is having trouble backing up his facts. He doesn't understand the process of aircraft orders, deliveries and deferrals.

Southwest hasn't closed the deal to acquire AirTran but they have closed the deal to acquire your future aircraft. I'd say you don't "understand the process of aircraft orders, deliveries and deferrals." You no longer have any orders, deliveries or deferrals.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Roughneck

we have SL8. Have you read it. It's a doozy. It sure had the family guy up in arms.

 

[ivauir]

I guess the Muse, Transtar and Morris guys who didn't make the transition to SWA don't count technically as furloughs.

The Morris pilots were all taken - even ones previously fired from SWA.

Muse/Transtar was the same airline. Their merger committee negotiated
an SLI with SWAPA. Their MEC turned it down.

 

[dicko]

we have SL8. Have you read it. It's a doozy. It sure had the family guy up in arms.

If "the family guy" is the person I think you're referring to, then that's pretty funny.

We prefer "The penguin".

 

[dicko]

Southwest hasn't closed the deal to acquire AirTran but they have closed the deal to acquire your future aircraft. I'd say you don't "understand the process of aircraft orders, deliveries and deferrals." You no longer have any orders, deliveries or deferrals.

You really can't answer the original question ? You keep deflecting.

No worries.

 

[redflyer65]

If "the family guy" is the person I think you're referring to, then that's pretty funny.

We prefer "The penguin".

Thanks for making me lose my drink.

 

[RJ Bum]

Especially when you OWN most of the aircraft. Completely different than every other carrier.

Do you have the numbers on how many are paid for and the source? just trying to do some research. thanks

 

[redflyer65]

I didn't dig into the 10k or quarterly report, but in the 2009 report it states that Southwest owns 440 aircraft and leases only 97. Roughly 82 percent of the airframes are owned out right.

That's a pretty big advantage in this industry.

 

[roughneck]

You really can't answer the original question ? You keep deflecting

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I thought I did. In the last 3 years AirTran has sold or deferred 47 aircraft and since September 27th they have divested their interest in all that they had left meaning AirTran has given up rights to about 150 in the last 3 years. Is that clear enough for you?

 

[BlueBlood]

Aw naw he didn'!

 

[carl p]

Yawn, will it ever get old guys?

 

[humveedriver]

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I thought I did. In the last 3 years AirTran has sold or deferred 47 aircraft and since September 27th they have divested their interest in all that they had left meaning AirTran has given up rights to about 150 in the last 3 years. Is that clear enough for you?

No it's not. You didn't say deferred in your original post. You said sold. But hey, even major newspapers/jounals publish corrections to their articles, so it's all good. I'm still not tracking the 150 aircraft though. We are the largest operator 0f the 717. We should have 89 on property by the end of the year (if they are not already there). We have never shrunk that fleet. The most orders of 737NG's we had was 115 (not 150). So if have 54 green and white 737's right now; 115-54-11= 50. We gave up rights to 50 737NG's in the last 6 months, not three years. If my logic is wrong, that's cool, just explain it to me.

 

[roughneck]

How many airplanes does AirTran have now?

 

[humveedriver]

"As of January 31, 2011, we operated 86 Boeing B717-200 aircraft (B717) and 52 Boeing B737-700 aircraft (B737) offering approximately 700 scheduled flights per day to 69 locations across the United States and the Caribbean" -Edgar Online

I mispoke too. If the two 717's come online this year it would be 88 717's. As far the 737's go, I really can't remember the source for how many we are getting this year (I don't count APC as a source), and of those which got siphoned of to SWA, I'm sure someone out there remembers the press release. We secured financing last year for all 2011 deliveries. But you know what? NONE of that matters now. Your getting them ALL!