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Furloughed Flexjet pilots recall rights extended to five years.

guido411

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Define "recall rights" when neither party is operating under a CBA. . . Serious question.
 

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I've seen many incorrect things on those APC pages in the past. However, I did hear this was mentioned by Reid at one of the meetings.
 

smartelephant

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I saw this posted last week on APC so I asked TC about it and he told me it's not true. And they have no plans as of now to extend it. He also said they were having it removed.
 

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I saw this posted last week on APC so I asked TC about it and he told me it's not true. And they have no plans as of now to extend it. He also said they were having it removed.

Ironically, I spoke with an ACP recently that said they were indeed extending it. Who knows.
 

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Lets see Age 65-60-1.5 years since implemented = Pilot movement 3.5 years....
 

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In the most recent employee meeting FR stated that their is not a 2 year limit to recalls and that essentially there is no set limit. If you are furloughed I suggest calling the office and ask what the deal is and mention the statement made by FR. Good luck!
 

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Define "recall rights" when neither party is operating under a CBA. . . Serious question.

The rights stated on the legal document written by company, stamped and notarize by all furlough pilots.
 

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Hopefully, for the sake of Flex Jet pilots, the 5 year recall rights thing becomes reality. I'm betting it's going to be a good 5 years before any of the big 3 fractionals (NetJets is next) even consider growing again and recall pilots. Shrink to profitability is the name of the game now. Just like the airlines have tried and we all have seen how well that's worked.
 

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The rights stated on the legal document written by company, stamped and notarize by all furlough pilots.


While I believe the Company will do the right thing, don't forget this little gem that is the last line on that "stamped and notarized" document.

This policy may be modified or cancelled at any time at the discretion of Flexjet.

So, they can do anything they want, at any time they want to do it.

Hung
 

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This is what the Anti-Union folk never seem to get...

While I believe the Company will do the right thing, don't forget this little gem that is the last line on that "stamped and notarized" document.

This policy may be modified or cancelled at any time at the discretion of Flexjet.

So, they can do anything they want, at any time they want to do it.

Hung

If it ain't in a CONTRACT, it don't mean sh-t.


Your employment and/or any recall "rights" are at the Will of Management, thus the term: At Will Employment!

Only way around that: A Union and a Contract


Why do you think Companies fight so hard to keep the Unions out?


Freedom is NOT Free
 

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Yeah, agreements like that are not worth the price of the piece of paper they are printed on.

But it does give the weak mind a false-sense of security. And that is all mgt cares about in instances like this.
 

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Yeah, agreements like that are not worth the price of the piece of paper they are printed on.

But it does give the weak mind a false-sense of security. And that is all mgt cares about in instances like this.

I agree, but it wouldn't really make much sense to NOT bring the furloughs back as needed since we're a "known quantity." Besides, as I understand it, if/when we go back it'll be on first year pay so it's not like they'd save any money by throwing us under the bus (otherwise I'm sure FR would).
 
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SO you're saying that we won't get longevity credit for pay? Because when TC called me with the bad news, I asked him about years of service credit for sick time, vacation and 401K match and he said "yes" we would get the credit. That's if we ever go back of course.
 

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how many furloughed so far? did they furlough by seniority or random? how deep did they go?
 

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SO you're saying that we won't get longevity credit for pay? Because when TC called me with the bad news, I asked him about years of service credit for sick time, vacation and 401K match and he said "yes" we would get the credit. That's if we ever go back of course.

Oh... well, that's good. Hopefully I heard wrong then.

Maybe that's why they made the "agreement" only valid for two years. :rolleyes:
 

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I hope you guys get called back soon, but unfortunately I believe there will be more furloughes before recalls.
 

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With as many calls from scheduling for overtime, I can't possibly see more furloughs period. Oh yeah, thanks all of you captains out there taking all the OT you can. I bet our furloughed guys really appreciate it. I know, you need the money... blah blah blah, rant off
 
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