Freedom callsign?

[captjim]

PCL 128, thanks for that update. If you guys find one of these guys in the above list trying to JS with a Mesa ID call security. They are breaking the law, breaking the law, breaking the law!

I believe Delta is in the process of prosecuting one of these guys for passing himself as a Mesa pilot!

 

[Brother Francis]

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[750driver]

I'm not defending the actions of the Freedom folks on the list, but merely pointing out an issue ...

Tread very carefully when posting names. This can be considered libel, and possibly lead to legal action against those posting the list.

Even though I need a job right now, I would NOT go to Freedom. I've put too many years in with ALPA, and wouldn't want to sabotage the global pilot effort.

750Driver

 

[PCL_128]

Re: PCL_128

How did you make your way into the CRJ, and a 1900 with your amount of flight time? PFT? and this is diferent than Freedoumb how?

You're right, I did PFT. It's a decision I have recently come to regret, dispite the fact that it got me into a CRJ with such low time. If I had known what I know now about how the industry works, I never would have PFTed. When I got into this industry I heard from marketing people telling me that their programs of PFT were the fast track to the airline world. Unfortunately, I didn't know of this website several years ago when I started my training. If I had, then I would have know before hand not to make this mistake. People sometimes make mistakes. Maybe someday this one will come back to bite me in the a$$. I don't know. If it does, I'll just have to take it. I can't undo what I have already done.

P.S. Due to the several posts from people not wanting the list posted here, I am removing it from my previous post. Anyone that wants a copy can send me a private msg and I will be happy to send you one.

 

[Brother Francis]

PCL

I believe there is a general consensus on the whole issue of Freedom.

I agree with the PA-44, however, that your relative newness to the industry and your experience level are incongruous with your militant stance.

 

[PCL_128]

For the record, I didn't call them scabs. I just said that they are pretty close. I happen to agree now that PFT is damaging to the profession. Like I said though, I can't undo what is already done.

 

[AAWORKER]

what is going on?what is happening on the radio? just curious..

 

[jetdriven]

blocked radio transmissions at PHX mostly, although I heard that there was actual profanity said over the gnd freq there a couple weeks back.

 

[Wiggums]

Shouldn’t you be maybe a little less hypocritical. You advocate making the lives of Freedom pilots miserable because you believe the are harming the profession, yet you went out and did the almost the exact same thing by PFTing. Yet, we should forgive you since you know acknowledge your mistake and wish you’d never done it. However, I bet if a Freedom pilot came on here and said the same stuff you did you wouldn’t let him or her of the hook. You’re an RJ FO with under 1000 hours, since your doing so well maybe you should leave others alone that are just trying to get ahead like you did.

 

[BoeingBaller]

Is it true freedumb pilots have Mesa IDs?

Is there any way to distinguish a freedumb pilot from a Mesa pilot if this is true?

Yes there is Freedumb pilots have SCABS on there knees

 

[captjim]

Why does PFT come up when we're talking about Freedom Air? These are guys that are helping divert work from ALPA mimbers that are trying to negotiate a contract. The two don't correlate at all. WTF?

 

[Wiggums]

I think they are pretty much related. Both PFT and working at Freedom are ways of stepping on the backs of other pilots in order to further ones own personal goals.

 

[captjim]

I think they are pretty much related. Both PFT and working at Freedom are ways of stepping on the backs of other pilots in order to further ones own personal goals.

Just so we're on the same page, are you refering the Gulfstream as PFT or are you talking about the regionals where pilots had to pay $9,500 to be trained?

Gulfstream = pay for flt time or pay for job.

Comair, Coex, ASA, Express 1(Pinnical), etc = pay for training

 

[CRJ puppy]

don't screw around on the radios....

and put me down for another one of those "bitch slaps"...I wanna give one of my captains one!

 

[PA-44Typed]

captjim

captjim
PFT= pay for training, like you said just like Gulfstreem. This is where you pay an amount of money for a amount of flight time.

A Training Contract= is what some companies were doing after you were hired. And you only had to pay it if you left early. In the past this amount was never given back at all. Most REPUTIBLE companies have done away with this thing altogether.