Double Shot
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- May 28, 2004
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Glad to see you calmed down a bit. Your first post was a little hysterical and there was no need to go off on a character attack.And my entire point is that you've already proven that you wouldn't abide by that which you've agreed. You can speculate that I have no integrity but I can prove you don't.
I'm well-aware of the term, which is what I don't understand about the West's position.If the Easties want this place burned down I have no doubt they'll succeed. That's called a pyrrhic victory.
Yup. About the same amount of nerve you have telling me I have no integrity.Once again, you've got a lot of nerve. Calling my hypocritical?
Ummm... OK. Since you think you've "won", I'll just run along now...How is that unfair? You know what, nevermind. I couldn't care less what you think is fair. If we went to an arbitrator I'd win this argument so that's good enough for me.
No, I'm not forgetting that at all. I agree with that assessment 100% and even said so once or twice in this thread.You're confusing the fact that the East pilots almost certainly could have argued for and obtained a more favorable award with "getting hosed by the arbitrator." In fact, Nicolau arguably went beyond the scope of his authority when he warned the East that their leadership was taking them down the road to ruin. The arbitrator is required to craft his award from the positions offered by the parties, and the East simply didn't give him anything to work with.
Turtle,
You deflect the issues because the answers to 2 very basic questions disprove every premise your arguments for 'rights' are based on.
Of course you would have preferred a merger as it was the only means of salvation for what remained of your career. And of course USAPA would not have come to pass if you had been granted your 'demands' from the arbitrator.
You keep trying to sugar coat this into something it's not....this is about you guys not getting what you wanted, so now you're going to try and take it.
2. If you dig your heels in and let the East burn it down, you've won your "moral victory" but have no career. Maybe some type of middle ground would be a better alternative?
ALPA has failed and is incapable of making any improvements.
Of course, but no middle ground is possible as long as uSAPa is a threat. The only chance for a middle ground would be for the East to forget uSAPa and drop the lawsuit that aims to vacate the Nic award. If that were to happen, then with National's assistance, I guarantee that the two MECs could reach a mutually beneficial fence agreement that would end all of this nonsense. But as long as the Easties want to dig in and fight, middle ground will never happen.Maybe some type of middle ground would be a better alternative?
Didn't say you were the "bad guy", just saying it seems to be a lose-lose situation and I don't see anyone really forging a solution, East or West.The east isn't seeking middle ground, they are seeking(demanding) everything they sought before as they point the figurative gun at the heads of the west. We aren't willing to negotiate? bull********************. We aren't willing to just capitulate, thats different than not being willing to negotiate. I love how we are made out to be the bad guy.