Flying to Hawaii

[GVFlyer]

As one of my fellow captains remarked the other day (he has been a Captain on the 2,3,4, Lear, Falcon-multiple models of each)... "The Legacy is the most reliable airplane you will ever fly. I have never been stranded in a Legacy...not so for a Gulfstream.". Another said this: "Eighty percent for fifty percent baby.". I liked that.

It's interesting that you don't reference any current Gulfstream models in your post, but it doesn't matter. Current Gulfstream Dispatch Reliability rates are:

GIV/G300/G400 - 99.85%

GV/G500/G550 - 99.75%

For those with My Gulfstream access, these figures are available on the Customer Website. For NBAA members these figures may be confirmed with that organization.

You continually comment about the price of Gulfstreams. The Gulfstream is what is termed a Wall Sreet Premium Branded Product. The Gulfstream is sometimes less expensive to own and operate than some smaller aircraft because of it's retained value. Look at the current prices of pre-owned Gulfstreams. How are Jungle Jets maintaining value on the used market? (rhetorical question - no answer required)

In my current capacity I rescue stranded Gulfstream ... clients from far away destinations on a regular basis.

Why? Gulfstream will run a Customer Accomodation Flight if a warrantied jet can't perform it's mission within necessary time constraints and the customer requests it. I can recall flights to Taipei, Tokyo and Capetown. Refresh my memory about the Gulfstream support flights to the Pacific Rim or South Africa that you have flown in your Legacy.

Additionally, for domestic support Gulfstream has a unique service - the company has a G100 on 24/7/365 standby for parts/maintenance support within the continental United States and the Carribean for all Gulfstream aircraft.

I have yet to call a Gulfstream to pick up one of my clients...

I'll hook you up with Gulfstream Charter Services. They'll be happy to help you out.

The numbers are out there and the dispatch reliability for the Legacy is second to none.

What are the Legacy dispatch reliability percentages and where do I go to confirm them?

GV






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[G100driver]

In my current capacity I rescue stranded Gulfstream and Challenger clients from far away destinations on a regular basis. I have yet to call a Gulfstream to pick up one of my clients...

If I were YOU, I would not either ......

 

[LegacyDriver]

Haven't had to. Legacy doesn't break!

But the ppl getting on always go, "Wow! This is a nice jet!". They don't seem to mind that I don't have FIVE IRSs when two are more than enough.

Eighty for fifty.

 

[xrated]

Oh brother, here we go again!

 

[HMR]

G100-Good advice (as usual). We got the info from Universal. Thanks to everyone else for the tips.

Play nice or I'll take my thread and go home.

 

[LegacyDriver]

All in good fun, mate!

 

[NJAFracPilot]

Haven't had to. Legacy doesn't break!

But the ppl getting on always go, "Wow! This is a nice jet!". They don't seem to mind that I don't have FIVE IRSs when two are more than enough.

Eighty for fifty.

Weak, dude, really weak. Why don't you answer any of GV's questions? Can't, huh? You make all these lame a$$ boasts then back them up with nothing. Go back to the regional board, maybe you can find somebody there that thinks the Legacy is a real airplane.

 

[LegacyDriver]

We have hashed this out before. There is no need to quote figures to GV as he always manages to invent better ones.

Besides, the rise I get out of some of you is worth the price of admission! If the Legacy were indeed the POS you falsely portray it to be there would be no need to sling arrows! Gulfstream's free ride is ending. People with rational minds are turning to the Legacy and other viable alternatives to the overpriced Georgia peachjet.

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

BUY AMERICAN!

End of story.

Ace.

 

[xrated]

Out of curiosity Legacy, who do you fly for?

 

[GVFlyer]

We have hashed this out before. There is no need to quote figures to GV as he always manages to invent better ones.

I provided two references to verify the veracity of my posts - look them up.

Gulfstream's free ride is ending. People with rational minds are turning to the Legacy and other viable alternatives to the overpriced Georgia peachjet.

More "invented" figures for you, these from Aviation International News, November 2004, page 8:

Gulfstream Poised to Finish Year on a High Note

Third-quarter results show that Gulfstream is on it's way to ending this year with significantly improved numbers in deliveries, earnings and sales...Gulfstream delivered a total of 57 green aircraft in the first nine months of this year, compared with 53 in the same period last year. Earnings and margin rates more than doubled... Gulfstream plans to deliver between 58 and 60 large-body Gulfstreams next year, compared with about 55 this year.

GV

 

[LegacyDriver]

And without competing airframes to cyphon off Gulfstream's business they would probably sell even more. Thankfully Legacy and others stand as viable options. Face it you guys are threatened by our plane because the people who buy it -do- consider it a "real corporate jet". At the end of the day it is these people who matter.

Bang for the buck...

 

[GVFlyer]

And without competing airframes to cyphon off Gulfstream's business they would probably sell even more. Thankfully Legacy and others stand as viable options. Face it you guys are threatened by our plane because the people who buy it -do- consider it a "real corporate jet". At the end of the day it is these people who matter.

Bang for the buck...

LegacyDriver/SilverWings,

There are 14 Legacies in the world and the aircraft has been in production since 2002, Gulfstream will make that many large cabin jets in the last quarter of 2004.

If you look at the registrations you will see that there have been only five Legacies sold in 2004.



N-number : N135SG
Aircraft Serial Number : 145706
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ROLL-ROYCE
Model : AE3007 SER
Aircraft Year : 2003
Owner Name : INTERSTATE EQUIPMENT LEASING INC
Owner Address : 2021 NW SUNDIAL RD
TROUTDALE, OR, 97060-9513
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 26-Jun-2003
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport



N-number : N135SL
Aircraft Serial Number : 145711
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ALLISON
Model : AE3007CSER
Aircraft Year : 2003
Owner Name : WILMINGTON TRUST CO TRUSTEE
Owner Address : 1100 N MARKET ST
WILMINGTON, DE, 19890
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 07-Aug-2003
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport



N-number : N456MT
Aircraft Serial Number : 145789
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Aircraft Year :
Owner Name : WELLS FARGO BANK NA TRUSTEE
Owner Address : 299 S MAIN STREET 12TH FL
: MAC U1228-120
SALT LAKE CITY, UT, 84111
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 22-Oct-2004
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified


N-number : N642AG
Aircraft Serial Number : 145642
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ROLL-ROYCE
Model : AE3007A1P
Aircraft Year : 2002
Owner Name : FLEET CAPITAL CORP
Owner Address : C/O YO PEGASUS
: 14605 N AIRPORT DR
SCOTTSDALE, AZ, 85260-2490
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 19-Dec-2002
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport


N-number : N691AN
Aircraft Serial Number : 145699
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ROLL-ROYCE
Model : AE3007 SER
Aircraft Year : 2003
Owner Name : WIND SPIRIT LLC
Owner Address : 2800 DONALD DOUGLAS LOOP N
SANTA MONICA, CA, 90405-2951
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 25-Sep-2003
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport


N-number : N730BH
Aircraft Serial Number : 145730
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ALLISON
Model : AE3007CSER
Aircraft Year : 2003
Owner Name : REDEYE II LLC
Owner Address : C/O BRIAD RESTAURANT GROUP
: 348 BOSTON POST RD
ORANGE, CT, 06477
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 21-Aug-2003
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport


N-number : N780SG
Aircraft Serial Number : 145780
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ROLL-ROYCE
Model : AE3007 SER
Aircraft Year : 2004
Owner Name : FLIGHT OPTIONS LLC
Owner Address : 26180 CURTISS-WRIGHT PKWY
RICHMOND HEIGHTS, OH, 44143
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 17-Jun-2004
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport


N-number : N809SG
Aircraft Serial Number : 14500809
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ROLL-ROYCE
Model : AE3007 SER
Aircraft Year : 2004
Owner Name : MEADOW LANE AIR PARTNERS LLC
Owner Address : 20 MEADOW LN
SOUTHAMPTON, NY, 11968-4631
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 17-Nov-2004
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport


N-number : N825SG
Aircraft Serial Number : 14500825
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Aircraft Year :
Owner Name : SWIFT AVIATION SALES INC
Owner Address : 2710 E OLD TOWER RD
PHOENIX, AZ, 85034-6001
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 18-Nov-2004
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified


N-number : N888ML
Aircraft Serial Number : 14500818
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ROLL-ROYCE
Model : AE3007 SER
Aircraft Year : 2004
Owner Name : WILMINGTON TRUST CO TRUSTEE
Owner Address : 1100 N MARKET ST
WILMINGTON, DE, 19890
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 27-Sep-2004
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport


N-number : N912CW
Aircraft Serial Number : 145412
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ROLL-ROYCE
Model : AE3007 SER
Aircraft Year : 2003
Owner Name : WELLS FARGO BANK NORTHWEST NA TRUSTEE
Owner Address : 299 S MAIN ST FL 12
SALT LAKE CITY, UT, 84111-2263
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 16-Dec-2003
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport


N-number : N928CW
Aircraft Serial Number : E145528
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ROLL-ROYCE
Model : AE3007A1P
Aircraft Year :
Owner Name : SALE REPORTED
Owner Address : 26180 CURTISS WRIGHT PKWY
RICHMOND HEIGHTS, OH, 44143-1453
Type of Owner : Individual
Registration Date : Not Specified
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport


N-number : N962CW
Aircraft Serial Number : 145462
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ROLL-ROYCE
Model : AE3007A1P
Aircraft Year : 2003
Owner Name : WELLS FARGO BANK NORTHWEWT NA TRUSTEE
Owner Address : 299 S MAIN ST FL 12
SALT LAKE CITY, UT, 84111-2263
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 19-Nov-2003
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport


N-number : N995CW
Aircraft Serial Number : 145495
Aircraft Manufacturer : EMBRAER
Model : EMB-135BJ
Engine Manufacturer : ROLL-ROYCE
Model : AE3007 SER
Aircraft Year : 2003
Owner Name : WELLS FARGO BANK NORTHWEST NA TRUSTEE
Owner Address : 299 S MAIN ST FL 12
SALT LAKE CITY, UT, 84111-2263
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 12-Dec-2003
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport


GV

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

GV, why are you even wasting your time on this bozo. He's never gonna buy a Gulfstream, a Legacy, or a piper twin for that matter. The pro-pilots and the seasoned owners know what is what and the use real data to make their choices. If this guy had a Gulfstream job that payed a buck-and-a-half like we make, he would be singing a different tune. Don't you remember the story about 'sour grapes'.

Ace

 

[GVFlyer]

Out of curiosity Legacy, who do you fly for?

Judging from his diction, vocabulary, sentence structure, grammatical composition and spelling errors, it's clear that LegacyDriver and SilverWings are the same person. Judging from the technical errors in his posts, it is also clear that he is not a pilot. My guess is that he's an Embraer sales weenie.

GV