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Flightworks & FLOPs

skyismyoffice

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Rumors and some confirmation that Flightworks is investing some money to build a facility at CGF. Obviously some speculation about the potential relationship with FLOPs.

Anybody have any info especially from the Flightworks side?
 

993_Pilot

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Strong Coincidences . . .

I don't know anything concrete, but when you consider that their Pres./CEO came from Flops, and the similarities in the logos of both companies, you have to wonder.

For a peak at their logo, Click HERE.
 

993_Pilot

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Just like Flops is going to merge with XO?

No one ever said that was going to happen, but there was some speculation due to the fact that Flops CEO talked about an acquisition and specifically mentioned Challenger 300's. It was the pride/arrogance of a few XOJ pilots that said it could never happen. Unfortunately that same pride/arrogance probably caught some of them by surprise when 25% of the XOJ pilots were terminated. I feel bad for them, but I wonder how many are still blindly drinking the koolaid? . . . I would bet that there is some healthy scepticism for everything Mr. Touw says now!

For the record, I realize that it is easy to get caught up in the hype at a new company (especially when you have a charismatic CEO), and I don't mean any disrespect to any XOJ pilots. I truly wish you all the best.
 

Voice Of Reason

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For the record, I realize that it is easy to get caught up in the hype at a new company (especially when you have a charismatic CEO), and I don't mean any disrespect to any XOJ pilots. I truly wish you all the best.

We had/again have someone like that here at FLOPS. Not fooled the 2nd time around....
 

Freedom

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Consider the Runway Length at KCGF

Why would anyone that didn't already operate out of there, want to start up an operation to run airplanes in and out of KCGF?

I have no idea why they are moving in. Is it just to run a competing FBO? If its to base airplanes there, wouldn't make any sense unless it was connected to Options.

Isn't the longest runway at KCGF still around 5000 ft? East side of the lake winter weather?

Does not compute.

I would suggest to the Troops this is just another Fear Tactic to attempt to keep the Troops in line at Options during the Peak Travel Season.

Seems to have been the game plan all along. Motivate through Fear.


Freedom is Not Free
 
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Voice Of Reason

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Why would anyone that didn't already operate out of there, want to start up an operation to run airplanes in and out of KCGF?

Someone who pulls companies out his butt that conveniently serve his other ones' purposes. Shell game like everything else.

I cannot WAIT to get out of this segment of the industry when the economy picks up again. Can. not. wait.

Say what you will about the airlines, but when a decent one hires again, I will beg to be saved from the daily bs outside of flying the freaking airplane.

Had Enough.
 
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FR8DOG777

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I hear that Voice

Flying the airplane is the easy part of the job. On top of that they have absolutely no intentions of settling this contract. We will get our contract IF and WHEN the business picks up enough to the point we are having an effect on their bottom line. So what will they do? Lose more current owners and many potential future owners by not settling this and treating their pilots fairly. Kicking, dragging, and screaming, that is the only way they will ever settle. So sad, this place had potential at one point, but I'm with you. Ten years of this crap and I'm getting out at my first opportunity as well. They don't deserve good pilots.
 

wacoflyr

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I truly feel bad for both of you. That sucks. Being in a job with no joy is awful. The job market will turn around, maybe in a year, and then FLOPS will fold when all of their good pilots leave. This will hurt the fractional industry, and the FLOPS management will be out of a job. Good riddance.

Wacoflyr
 

Cobra

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I truly feel bad for both of you. That sucks. Being in a job with no joy is awful. The job market will turn around, maybe in a year, and then FLOPS will fold when all of their good pilots leave. This will hurt the fractional industry, and the FLOPS management will be out of a job. Good riddance.

Wacoflyr

The economy maybe turning around in a year or so is highly optimistic.
 
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