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I certainly want what you want, just don't believe in unionizing to achieve it. Just because you and I feel we "deserve" something doesn't necessarily mean the marketplace will provide it while keeping our employer healthy enough to stay in business.

funny how you are so confused... you do know that Adam Smith, the modern day father of the Free Market concept was pro-union, don't you? Unions ARE part of the free market... just "collectively" rather than individually, which balances out the power of the small individual vs the giant... it's actually a very Christian concept, which is why the Catholic church is so strongly supportive of it..... but then something tells me you're one of those right wing luny Evangelicals anyway.... and likely to read that as more reason to oppose unions...

Unions are why Europe has such a high standard of living compared to us.... look at how Germany is able to support most of the dead weight of the EU, all the while they have VERY strong trade unions.... Holland, France, Denmark, Sweden, the Swiss, Luxembourg, Finland, etc.. all very unionized and very rich... It fails in poor countries like Greece, Ireland and Portugal, but the US is anything but poor or resource deprived.
 
I have had eleven flight departments close their doors on me. I know what it is to lose a job while trying to support a family. In a weak economy, keeping a fairly good job is better than losing it, it seems to me. Even if people disagree with me about this, I don't understand the ferocity of some of the posts here.

I have several friends at AA and several more who were at TWA. I am very well informed about the situation when they merged. It was UGLY. All that talk about union brotherhood, priceless.

They just closed and locked the doors until you left. As to you having "friends", that is dubious at best....

Ferocity? cross a picket line and see how many "friends" you have.
 
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I'm just here to do a job, my job.

5:00 AM show for a 6 o'clock go in SFO this morning. Took the 4:40 shuttle from the short layover, and after 4 stops, got through security at 5:10. Straight to the jet which sat all night.

Parking brake pressure sat around 2,000 PSI, in the orange band.
3 of the 4 main tires with low pressure.
A chip in a fan blade in the left engine.
Cracked taxi light.
2 of the 3 exterior emergency exit placards under the FO window deteriorated.
Exterior Evacuation Slide placard on the forward galley door deteriorated.

Did I mention this thing sat all night at a maintenance base?

Anyway, a MX team showed up to work. Then they quit. Apparently AA schedules a maintenance shift change right at the morning push with all the so-called critical flights. New team shows up. Work is being done with all the passengers politely watching from their assigned seats. Departure time keeps getting pushed back. At 7:00, the #1 tells us the flight is canceled and they're deadheading on the 7:10 flight to DFW. So are we. Maintenance tells me the jet is OTS because 2 brake metering valves are leaking.

We gather our stuff, (well most of it, my CA left his earpiece in the jet), and head to the new gate. A manager, Kevin, is working the 7:10 flight. He's stressing. Tells us he's putting us on the next flight, not this one, and to leave him alone. No problem, just means we will be late for our return flight, but we aren't in charge of manning, deadheading, scheduling or SFO, so we sit in those cool round red chairs out of the way and watch the show. Long lines, cell phones out everywhere, agents gate checking bags, and the manager running around trying to keep up.

7:10 comes and goes. The gate door is shut. A gate agent makes the following page in the terminal, "Kevin, return to gate 57. The captain (working the flight) wants to talk to you." Kevin refused to talk to him. The door opens again, and agents are sending down more passengers. Important-looking people are talking to their respective travel departments and jockeying for position at the gate to get the last few seats. Apparently, they tried to close the flight out with 20 empty seats and a long line at the gate from our canceled flight. The captain called bull[Content Deleted].

Our names are called. We weave through the important people to the gate. The agent looks at us, "What's up?" "We don't know, you called our names." "Oh, you're deadheading?" Again, we don't know. "Go sit down." OK.

5 minutes later, our names are called again. "You're on. We're checking your bags." "How will we get our bags in DFW?" They are "Escort Tagged". They will be brought up the jet bridge in DFW with strollers and wheel chairs. "OK, cool". All middle seats in coach, my favorite! We push at 7:33, 23 minutes late. Critical flight canceled and another D+23... We arrive in DFW A+8...

On a side note, our crew breakfasts were not provided on the deadhead, so we hadn't eaten since the night prior.

Our departure back to SFO was scheduled at 12:40, so we figured AA had the flight boarded and ready. We are standing on the jetbridge waiting for our bags. Passengers are deplaning. They're done. The crew leaves and another shows up. Still no bags. Oh , and no keys or vests to go find our bags. We wait. After all, baggage handlers know how to do their jobs, and it's not my job to prod everybody along. We're all highly trained professionals. They board the next flight so we clear the jetbridge into the gate area. They finish and the agent asks us what's going on. We tell her the story. She goes to check. At that time, almost an hour after we arrived, crew tracking calls. "Why aren't you at the next flight?" Captain tells her our story. Here we are. No bags, no manuals, no keys, no nothing. Oh and by the way, we haven't eaten since last night. Tracking says nourishment's hotels and limos' arena.

Tracking calls back. She called the ramp manager. The ramp manager gave her the crew chief's cell phone number. She asked the chief about our bags with the "Escort Tags" on them. He told her no way was he going to carry them up the jetbridge stairs so he left them on the ramp. After a while, he took them to baggage claim. She said he was pissed. We told her that's fine, just have them delivered to the departure gate, which did board on time, ready to go at 12:40. It's now 13:40-ish.

Nobody can deliver our "escort bags" to the new gate, so we go outside security and grab 'em. Come back through security in D, catch the train over to C and to the new gate. No agent, door shut. (Remember when a key would allow us to get to the jet? Not my problem anymore.) Screw it. I walk to McDonald's. Did I mention we hadn't eaten since the night before and it's 14:00 now?. I get back to the gate. The captain's studying the 18-foot-long flight plan. The agent lets me down the jetbridge.

Upon entering the jet, the flight attendant says, "Can you make a PA and tell these passengers why you're late?" She's standing next to a first class passenger in the galley. I say, "Well hi there, I'm Bill. How are you?" Eyeballing my little McDonald's bag, she says, "I'm not getting paid, we boarded over an hour ago, and I can't get off to get food like you have." "Hey I'm sorry, we haven't eaten since yesterday. We deadheaded in and AA lost our bags." I look at the passenger and say, "Hey there, how are you? Can you believe AA would lose our luggage?" He understood and was in a good mood. No problem with him. Just the FA.

I walk around the jet. The captain comes down and we start making our nests. "Cabin's ready." SLAM. Ahhhh, peace behind the cockpit door. I've come to really like that door over the years. We're loading the box, flipping switches, all that cool stuff we do before we get paid. DING, DING. Captain answers, Yes? "Why aren't we moving yet?" Well, we just got here. Now we're running all those checklists we do before we go fly. A few minutes later, DING, DING. Yess? "Can you make a PA and tell these passengers why we're still sitting here?" I'm not making this up.

Finally time to push. 14:50 local. D+130 minutes. BANG. The tow bar breaks. DING, DING. Yesss? "What was that??" Don't worry about it. We have it under control. Please let us do our jobs. MX inspects the jet. No problem. Meanwhile, the agent lets PAX off - without their bags... We can't leave without them. We finally push at 15:52 local. D+192.


After the flight, one of the passenger got in the captain's face as he was deplaning, pointed his finger in his face and said, "You're a THUG! A union THUG! The captain replied, "Sir, you don't know me, but I assure you I'm nothing like that." Yes you ARE! A union THUG! and left.

Maintenance came on and asked who the thug is. Captain fessed up. He laughed. Then he talked about a flight that canceled this morning because the crew "wrote up 19 items 20 minutes before departure". He got a bull[Content Deleted] look from the captain. Then he said, "Of course, the jet did sit here all night with our night shift."

We get to the hotel and on the elevator. A guy says, "Hey, you're not the pilots that just came in from Dallas..." We braced and admitted it. No punches, but he said, "We heard you went to lunch before coming to the plane." He knows that not to be true now.


The hardest part about this day was refraining from repeatedly stepping into the other departments and telling fellow employees what needs to be done. It is engrained in usto anticipate and fix problems we see coming. Once I overcame the urge to tell others how to do their jobs, it actually became quite entertaining to watch the operation.

My advice to you is to not let the frustration of watching others without guidance raise your blood pressure, but to embrace the comedy of errors that ensues.

Do your job. No one else's. Do not tell others what needs to be done. Do not continually follow up.
You called MX once. They are aware. No need to stress them out. The agent told you to sit down. She knows you're there. Don't stress her out. Roll with the flow. They're all highly-trained professionals.

It's a hard habit to break."
 
funny how you are so confused... you do know that Adam Smith, the modern day father of the Free Market concept was pro-union, don't you? Unions ARE part of the free market... just "collectively" rather than individually, which balances out the power of the small individual vs the giant... it's actually a very Christian concept, which is why the Catholic church is so strongly supportive of it..... but then something tells me you're one of those right wing luny Evangelicals anyway.... and likely to read that as more reason to oppose unions...

Unions are why Europe has such a high standard of living compared to us.... look at how Germany is able to support most of the dead weight of the EU, all the while they have VERY strong trade unions.... Holland, France, Denmark, Sweden, the Swiss, Luxembourg, Finland, etc.. all very unionized and very rich... It fails in poor countries like Greece, Ireland and Portugal, but the US is anything but poor or resource deprived.

In the 18th century it was understandable to favor labor unions, but I bet Adam would not approve of pilots behaving this way while making what they make. Regarding Europe, they are broke and are facing a collapse of their bond markets. They have lived in a fool's paradise for a couple decades, working less and saving less, counting on being taken care of from cradle to grave by politicians who extrapolated unsustainable economic growth rates into infinity to "pay" for all this.
 
Yet they make it their business to know how much I make. To take it away.

Yep. We make as much as we can, they pay us as little as they can. The compromise is what we are paid. I don't get the class warfare rhetoric, however, of union people. If we get paid too much, the investors will sell the stock, new investors will not buy the stock and the employer will tank. Read all about Eastern. Lorenzo was CAUSED by the unions creating an underperforming company which was worth more dead than alive. Especially the Machinists union, which the pilots actually wanted to fight alongside management. A former member of the strike committee at EAL told me that.
 
The guy/gal who wrote that story PBR posted is a cry baby. Im hungry, Im hungry, Im hungry....Geez, sounds like a newborn. That whole story sounded like a fairly typical airline day, not a good one, but not uncommon. Plus, who writes up faded placards on the flight line? Super lame write up, especially the placards that are for the crew and not the PAX. That guy/gal needs to be made fun of.
 
The guy/gal who wrote that story PBR posted is a cry baby. Im hungry, Im hungry, Im hungry....Geez, sounds like a newborn. That whole story sounded like a fairly typical airline day, not a good one, but not uncommon. Plus, who writes up faded placards on the flight line? Super lame write up, especially the placards that are for the crew and not the PAX. That guy/gal needs to be made fun of.

you must work for "one of those" airlines.... aka "bottom feeder"
 
Yep. We make as much as we can, they pay us as little as they can. The compromise is what we are paid. I don't get the class warfare rhetoric, however, of union people. If we get paid too much, the investors will sell the stock, new investors will not buy the stock and the employer will tank. Read all about Eastern. Lorenzo was CAUSED by the unions creating an underperforming company which was worth more dead than alive. Especially the Machinists union, which the pilots actually wanted to fight alongside management. A former member of the strike committee at EAL told me that.


The problem is. Good union, or bad union. Pilots always need one, to create that balance your talking about.
 
Kudos to AA pilots taking a strong stand as far as they can within the legal limits....If it's broke, write it up...Simple as that.. You don't think for one second managment wouldn't come down on a pilot if the roles were reversed...??

Let the rampers, mechanics, CS, schedulers and dispatchers do their own job.. Guaranteed they will usually screw something up which will result in something going wrong. Not the pilots problem. Those individuals get paid to do their own job. Pilots get paid to fly.

Some people go through life as sheep, just happy to have a job and have some money coming in... For the rest of us MEN, we prefer to get paid and treated with a level of respect.... In the end, us pilots who get fed up with managements tactics and take a stand, can walk into ops with our heads held high...

I wonder if guys like G4 ever have the balls to walk into a Double Tree Union meeting with the same attitude and verbally express it to his peers, as he does here? My family and friends know what I stand for... I wonder how G4's family/friends view him? As a strong individual or as someone who goes through life saying "yes master, anything you say"...........
 
I would leave for a better job. Which I have done before.

Good for you. This situation is nothing like that. This is a showdown; One party will walk away, and one will not. The money mgt owes the APA is more like accounts receivable than backpay or snap back. Mgt wants to hide out in bk from every creditor they've got, and that includes the APA. This will be different.

You really should refrain from commenting here. You don't speak the language. Go back to the royal barge and play CEO fartcatcher.
 
Kudos to AA pilots taking a strong stand as far as they can within the legal limits....If it's broke, write it up...Simple as that.. You don't think for one second managment wouldn't come down on a pilot if the roles were reversed...??

Let the rampers, mechanics, CS, schedulers and dispatchers do their own job.. Guaranteed they will usually screw something up which will result in something going wrong. Not the pilots problem. Those individuals get paid to do their own job. Pilots get paid to fly.

Some people go through life as sheep, just happy to have a job and have some money coming in... For the rest of us MEN, we prefer to get paid and treated with a level of respect.... In the end, us pilots who get fed up with managements tactics and take a stand, can walk into ops with our heads held high...

I wonder if guys like G4 ever have the balls to walk into a Double Tree Union meeting with the same attitude and verbally express it to his peers, as he does here? My family and friends know what I stand for... I wonder how G4's family/friends view him? As a strong individual or as someone who goes through life saying "yes master, anything you say"...........

It wouldn't take guts to walk in to a meeting of people like me and express your views. it would take a LOT of guts for me to do the same at a meeting of people like you. Don't you see the difference? It shouldn't take "guts" to tell another pilot my views or for you to tell me yours.
And by the way, in case of a strike, if you choose to leave your job and walk the line, I would not harass you at all. If I choose to cross that line, you would harass me to the extreme. See the difference?
 
Good for you. This situation is nothing like that. This is a showdown; One party will walk away, and one will not. The money mgt owes the APA is more like accounts receivable than backpay or snap back. Mgt wants to hide out in bk from every creditor they've got, and that includes the APA. This will be different.

You really should refrain from commenting here. You don't speak the language. Go back to the royal barge and play CEO fartcatcher.

If AA goes under, who will support the pilots' families financially? Who will apologize to the pilots who were NOT in favor of the stuff some pilots are doing now to cost the company money, if AA craters?
 
It wouldn't take guts to walk in to a meeting of people like me and express your views. it would take a LOT of guts for me to do the same at a meeting of people like you. Don't you see the difference? It shouldn't take "guts" to tell another pilot my views or for you to tell me yours.
And by the way, in case of a strike, if you choose to leave your job and walk the line, I would not harass you at all. If I choose to cross that line, you would harass me to the extreme. See the difference?

that's clearly because one harms the other, while the other does not harm the one... it IS a one way street argument.
 
Kudos to AA pilots taking a strong stand as far as they can within the legal limits....If it's broke, write it up...Simple as that.. You don't think for one second managment wouldn't come down on a pilot if the roles were reversed...??

Let the rampers, mechanics, CS, schedulers and dispatchers do their own job.. Guaranteed they will usually screw something up which will result in something going wrong. Not the pilots problem. Those individuals get paid to do their own job. Pilots get paid to fly.

Some people go through life as sheep, just happy to have a job and have some money coming in... For the rest of us MEN, we prefer to get paid and treated with a level of respect.... In the end, us pilots who get fed up with managements tactics and take a stand, can walk into ops with our heads held high...

I wonder if guys like G4 ever have the balls to walk into a Double Tree Union meeting with the same attitude and verbally express it to his peers, as he does here? My family and friends know what I stand for... I wonder how G4's family/friends view him? As a strong individual or as someone who goes through life saying "yes master, anything you say"...........

I must confess, it makes me smile to read that to be pro union takes "guts." It never takes guts to run with the herd, especially if it is ignorantly over a cliff.
 
Please explain, and thanks for the civilized arguments.

If you cross the picket line, you undermine the strike and therefore the efforts of those "brave" men who risk their jobs to improve their, and the rest of the professions' future.

If on the other hand you are criticized for doing so, labeled a scab, or otherwise ostracized you are no worse than you are today.... and your lively hood is unaffected in the corporate pilot universe.
 
If AA goes under, who will support the pilots' families financially? Who will apologize to the pilots who were NOT in favor of the stuff some pilots are doing now to cost the company money, if AA craters?

I know a lot of American pilots. I have no idea who you might be talking about. These guys have had it. In fact their families have too.

These pilots have been institutionalized. Lot's of us have. You don't understand it, trust me. There is nothing like this going on in your world.
 
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I know a lot of American pilots. I have no idea who you might be talking about. These guys have had it. In fact their families have too.

These pilots have been institutionalized. Lot's of us have. You don't understand it, trust me. There is nothing like this going on in your world.

I get it, but I am worried a bunch of people at AA will have no job at all. Isn't that worse? I have been there repeatedly, and the memories still nauseate me.
 
I will start by saying that I feel for the AA guys--must be incredibly stressful. I am also thankful to be in my union job with a great company. I pray that labor-managmennt relations in my company never approach what is happening at AA.

With that said, G4 has shown more guts than all the other guys calling him every name in the book just because he asked some questions and has a different view than the mob. The emotional name calling and ridiculous arguments shows how ignorant many of the flame-throwing union "burn down the house" guys are. Why don't you emigrate to Europe if you love it so much (good luck finding a flying job there). I also don't care what other people make. There are also managers that I respect. In short, I agree with 90% of what G4 has commented on. Standing by for the undeserved "scab" comments. Maybe throw in some urinary habits too.
 
I pray that labor-managmennt relations in my company never approach what is happening at AA.

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I hope and pray that you never do too. If you did, you would consider the actions of the APA, actually not the APA but grass roots pilots, more than justified and understandable.
 
Some people go through life as sheep, just happy to have a job and have some money coming in... For the rest of us MEN, we prefer to get paid and treated with a level of respect....

Putting up a fight at work does not make you a man. Putting food on the table for your family and paying the bills on time by whatever means possible does. Ever see Dave Chapel's "when keeping it real goes wrong"?..... just saying
 
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Putting up a fight at work does not make you a man. Putting food on the table for your family and paying the bills on time by whatever means possible does. Ever see Dave Chapel's "when keeping it real goes wrong"?..... just saying

Exactly, they should just shut up and keep flying a good airline for the sake of management, the passengers, and to put food on the table. No matter how they are treated or paid.
 
Here's your answer G4Dude: Written and delivered to Fox News by one of our own.

Response to Fox News Biased Reporting on American Airlines


Dear Fox and Friends Producers,

You are one of my favorite shows so I am writing as a fan to let you know that you have been putting out some bad information.American Airlines and AMR corporation have been putting on a full court press to blame their operational ineffectiveness on pilots calling in sick. They have put out a line of comment indicating that pilots sick calls are running 20% over normal. The fact is that these numbers are easy to obtain, verify and compare and actually show that pilot sick calls are not elevated at all but within 1% of their monthly average for the last 12 months. That monthly average runs about 6.5% or about 500 pilots out of our 7600 who are currently flying and not on furlough or serving with the military. Flight Attendant sick calls are running at historically high levels but this has not been delineated by either American or the media.
American pilots are in the unique position of working without a contract. Our contract, which was abrogated by the court two weeks ago, enables pilots to work through operational issues in a professional manner through communications and hearings and fact finding when there are deviations. That is gone now, so pilots are flying very cautiously with regard to company and FAA rules because the company can fire a pilot without recourse and the FAA can take the pilots license while they investigate and that pilot is immediately unemployed - pilots are not on salary they actually get paid by the minute and don’t start getting paid until the aircraft is moved from the gate. So when you see pilots at the airport, in uniform doing paperwork and preparing to fly - they are not being paid. The pilots of American Airlines are professional aviators who have been lied to by management at every turn since 2003 when they gave back over a billion dollars in a concessionary contract to prevent AMR’s dive into bankruptcy while management prepared bonuses for themselves.
As a conservative and an international airline captain at AA I am a Union Member because of the unique circumstances of commercial aviation. But Airline pilots are not traditional unionized labor as many conservatives like myself may be tempted to assume. We are professionals that are federally licensed and regulated. By any measure we have greater risk and responsibility than any manager including AMR CEO Tom Horton. Yet we have no contact with our managers, so we traditionally have a contract we follow and our own ethics and leadership as professionals to guide our actions. We are compensated well because our work requires years of preparation, experience and hundreds of thousands of dollars of personal investment. We have the lives of hundreds of people in our hands every day and sole responsibility for a $20 plus million dollar asset, flown at all hours in all weather conditions into some of the most demanding airports in the world. We have more life and death responsibility that any surgeon at any one moment. We are more highly regulated, inspected and scrutinized than any doctor or CEO and yet we serve at the complete mercy of companies and managers who have little understanding or respect for our profession. We accept these factors but will not devalue our profession for the sake of inexperienced managers and boards who don’t know what it really means to run a world class airline. This is why the pilots voted down the company’s last offer. It was an insulting attack on our profession and we will not cut our own throats to cover for managements failures - we have done our job exactly as we contracted to do with integrity and within the rules of our highly regulated environment.We were professional aviators before we worked for AA, and we will be professional aviators after we no longer work for AA. I was an Air Force U-2 pilot and AA came to my base and specifically asked me to work for them. When I arrived for my interview I sat next to the Colonel who was the Captain of Air Force One, he got the same invitation. American came to us because they needed our skills to make their business work, without professional aviators there is no airline. We cannot be outsourced or easily replaced. There is a worldwide pilot shortage that is only getting worse.
With regard to the company’s economic arguments, AA pilots are paid less than almost all their counterparts, less than Delta, United and Southwest by significant numbers. So their argument that the pilots are making above market rates is a lie. For 25 years AA made promises in writing that they have now been allowed to walk away from through bankruptcy. American Airlines entered bankruptcy with more cash ($5 billion) than any company in American history. AA’s bankruptcy was merely a stunt to break the unions and stiff our creditors so they can compete. Funny thing is that despite no labor concessions having been put in place yet, AA is now reporting a profit except for the costs of paying bankruptcy lawyers. This is a travesty and deserves a fair and balanced investigation, not a mere regurgitation of comments that pose as facts from sources controlled by AA or intellectually dishonest analysts who have it out for unions.
Of course everyone loves Southwest Airlines, but did you know that Southwest is the most highly unionized airline in the US? The difference is management philosophy at Southwest, Their CEO recently stated that the most important people for Southwest are not customers, but employees. Southwest believes that if they take care and respect employees then the employees will take care and respect their customers and business will be good. Well for Southwest business is in fact, very good. But Southwest practices care and respect for employees, they don’t just talk about it. AA has talked for years but not followed up with the actions and commitments. Employees are not the enemy, they are an airlines greatest asset or, if treated poorly, its most powerful drain on brand excellence.
I am a retired AF Colonel, I have an MBA and have run four international companies. I have worked as an aviation analyst for NBC and an international risk expert for CBS. I understand business and leadership and airlines are a unique business that requires extremely competent leadership, agile decision making and trust. It would be refreshing for the media to be fair and balanced with regard to some industries where unions are not the enemy but in fact the leaders in protecting the traveling public. Airline pilot unions in the US have been responsible for creating and/or demanding most of the programs that are now credited with creating the great safety record we now enjoy in the US.
For those companies and organizations on the unsecured creditors committee (the UCC) involved in the AA bankruptcy this is about dollars that belong to companies - for AA pilots (also on the UCC) this is about the future of our families, our lives, our financial security and our honor.
Thanks for your time, the pilots at American Airlines are proud professionals saddened by where management has taken our once great airline. I continue to transport and protect my precious passengers despite the attacks on my profession, my livelihood, my reputation and my colleagues. Professional pilots call in sick when they are not physically fit to fly, this is the responsibility placed on us alone by our Federal Airline Transport License and our FAA Medical Certificate, it is not a company decision. We don’t call in sick to punish the company or leverage our circumstances. But these are trying times of great stress for the employees of American Airlines, and I am sure that this stress does affect peoples health. Over the past several years the stress has gotten so bad that suicides among pilots in our business are at record levels. That is a sure sign of trouble in any business that cannot and should not be ignored.
The truth is that prior to AA’s bankruptcy and continuing through it, AA is responsible for lying not only to employees, but to investors, stockholders, banks, regulators, creditors, analysts and the media. They have been fined well over $150 million over the last 4 years for gross maintenance violations, these fines are records - the previous highest fine was $25 million (also fined against AA). So where is the outrage from the media against a company that has used spin to avoid accountability and abused the bankruptcy laws to cheat investors (every AA stockholder), stakeholders (employees), suppliers and customers so they can break contracts they agreed to and signed. Please tenaciously investigate deeper than the press releases and the analyst babble from those who look at the industry but don’t know the business.
Finally, please realize that I obviously do not speak for American Airlines or for the pilots union, the Allied Pilots Association. I speak as a private citizen, professional aviator, conservative and concerned american worker.
Very Respectfully,
Captain xxxxx
 
I will start by saying that I feel for the AA guys--must be incredibly stressful. I am also thankful to be in my union job with a great company. I pray that labor-managmennt relations in my company never approach what is happening at AA.

With that said, G4 has shown more guts than all the other guys calling him every name in the book just because he asked some questions and has a different view than the mob. The emotional name calling and ridiculous arguments shows how ignorant many of the flame-throwing union "burn down the house" guys are. Why don't you emigrate to Europe if you love it so much (good luck finding a flying job there). I also don't care what other people make. There are also managers that I respect. In short, I agree with 90% of what G4 has commented on. Standing by for the undeserved "scab" comments. Maybe throw in some urinary habits too.


Thank you, I was beginning to feel a little lonely here...
 
Here's your answer G4Dude: Written and delivered to Fox News by one of our own.

Response to Fox News Biased Reporting on American Airlines


Dear Fox and Friends Producers,

You are one of my favorite shows so I am writing as a fan to let you know that you have been putting out some bad information.American Airlines and AMR corporation have been putting on a full court press to blame their operational ineffectiveness on pilots calling in sick. They have put out a line of comment indicating that pilots sick calls are running 20% over normal. The fact is that these numbers are easy to obtain, verify and compare and actually show that pilot sick calls are not elevated at all but within 1% of their monthly average for the last 12 months. That monthly average runs about 6.5% or about 500 pilots out of our 7600 who are currently flying and not on furlough or serving with the military. Flight Attendant sick calls are running at historically high levels but this has not been delineated by either American or the media.
American pilots are in the unique position of working without a contract. Our contract, which was abrogated by the court two weeks ago, enables pilots to work through operational issues in a professional manner through communications and hearings and fact finding when there are deviations. That is gone now, so pilots are flying very cautiously with regard to company and FAA rules because the company can fire a pilot without recourse and the FAA can take the pilots license while they investigate and that pilot is immediately unemployed - pilots are not on salary they actually get paid by the minute and don’t start getting paid until the aircraft is moved from the gate. So when you see pilots at the airport, in uniform doing paperwork and preparing to fly - they are not being paid. The pilots of American Airlines are professional aviators who have been lied to by management at every turn since 2003 when they gave back over a billion dollars in a concessionary contract to prevent AMR’s dive into bankruptcy while management prepared bonuses for themselves.
As a conservative and an international airline captain at AA I am a Union Member because of the unique circumstances of commercial aviation. But Airline pilots are not traditional unionized labor as many conservatives like myself may be tempted to assume. We are professionals that are federally licensed and regulated. By any measure we have greater risk and responsibility than any manager including AMR CEO Tom Horton. Yet we have no contact with our managers, so we traditionally have a contract we follow and our own ethics and leadership as professionals to guide our actions. We are compensated well because our work requires years of preparation, experience and hundreds of thousands of dollars of personal investment. We have the lives of hundreds of people in our hands every day and sole responsibility for a $20 plus million dollar asset, flown at all hours in all weather conditions into some of the most demanding airports in the world. We have more life and death responsibility that any surgeon at any one moment. We are more highly regulated, inspected and scrutinized than any doctor or CEO and yet we serve at the complete mercy of companies and managers who have little understanding or respect for our profession. We accept these factors but will not devalue our profession for the sake of inexperienced managers and boards who don’t know what it really means to run a world class airline. This is why the pilots voted down the company’s last offer. It was an insulting attack on our profession and we will not cut our own throats to cover for managements failures - we have done our job exactly as we contracted to do with integrity and within the rules of our highly regulated environment.We were professional aviators before we worked for AA, and we will be professional aviators after we no longer work for AA. I was an Air Force U-2 pilot and AA came to my base and specifically asked me to work for them. When I arrived for my interview I sat next to the Colonel who was the Captain of Air Force One, he got the same invitation. American came to us because they needed our skills to make their business work, without professional aviators there is no airline. We cannot be outsourced or easily replaced. There is a worldwide pilot shortage that is only getting worse.
With regard to the company’s economic arguments, AA pilots are paid less than almost all their counterparts, less than Delta, United and Southwest by significant numbers. So their argument that the pilots are making above market rates is a lie. For 25 years AA made promises in writing that they have now been allowed to walk away from through bankruptcy. American Airlines entered bankruptcy with more cash ($5 billion) than any company in American history. AA’s bankruptcy was merely a stunt to break the unions and stiff our creditors so they can compete. Funny thing is that despite no labor concessions having been put in place yet, AA is now reporting a profit except for the costs of paying bankruptcy lawyers. This is a travesty and deserves a fair and balanced investigation, not a mere regurgitation of comments that pose as facts from sources controlled by AA or intellectually dishonest analysts who have it out for unions.
Of course everyone loves Southwest Airlines, but did you know that Southwest is the most highly unionized airline in the US? The difference is management philosophy at Southwest, Their CEO recently stated that the most important people for Southwest are not customers, but employees. Southwest believes that if they take care and respect employees then the employees will take care and respect their customers and business will be good. Well for Southwest business is in fact, very good. But Southwest practices care and respect for employees, they don’t just talk about it. AA has talked for years but not followed up with the actions and commitments. Employees are not the enemy, they are an airlines greatest asset or, if treated poorly, its most powerful drain on brand excellence.
I am a retired AF Colonel, I have an MBA and have run four international companies. I have worked as an aviation analyst for NBC and an international risk expert for CBS. I understand business and leadership and airlines are a unique business that requires extremely competent leadership, agile decision making and trust. It would be refreshing for the media to be fair and balanced with regard to some industries where unions are not the enemy but in fact the leaders in protecting the traveling public. Airline pilot unions in the US have been responsible for creating and/or demanding most of the programs that are now credited with creating the great safety record we now enjoy in the US.
For those companies and organizations on the unsecured creditors committee (the UCC) involved in the AA bankruptcy this is about dollars that belong to companies - for AA pilots (also on the UCC) this is about the future of our families, our lives, our financial security and our honor.
Thanks for your time, the pilots at American Airlines are proud professionals saddened by where management has taken our once great airline. I continue to transport and protect my precious passengers despite the attacks on my profession, my livelihood, my reputation and my colleagues. Professional pilots call in sick when they are not physically fit to fly, this is the responsibility placed on us alone by our Federal Airline Transport License and our FAA Medical Certificate, it is not a company decision. We don’t call in sick to punish the company or leverage our circumstances. But these are trying times of great stress for the employees of American Airlines, and I am sure that this stress does affect peoples health. Over the past several years the stress has gotten so bad that suicides among pilots in our business are at record levels. That is a sure sign of trouble in any business that cannot and should not be ignored.
The truth is that prior to AA’s bankruptcy and continuing through it, AA is responsible for lying not only to employees, but to investors, stockholders, banks, regulators, creditors, analysts and the media. They have been fined well over $150 million over the last 4 years for gross maintenance violations, these fines are records - the previous highest fine was $25 million (also fined against AA). So where is the outrage from the media against a company that has used spin to avoid accountability and abused the bankruptcy laws to cheat investors (every AA stockholder), stakeholders (employees), suppliers and customers so they can break contracts they agreed to and signed. Please tenaciously investigate deeper than the press releases and the analyst babble from those who look at the industry but don’t know the business.
Finally, please realize that I obviously do not speak for American Airlines or for the pilots union, the Allied Pilots Association. I speak as a private citizen, professional aviator, conservative and concerned american worker.
Very Respectfully,
Captain xxxxx

Then go fly for another company. Good luck with that in this economy.
 

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