Flight cancellations surge at American Airlines

[aa73]

^^^^ thanks, my fellow Blueridger. ^^^^

AA Pilots, boldly going where no pilot group has gone before! However, we must thank the pilot groups that have gone through BK before, acknowledging the fact that THEY were the ones who blazed the trails, illuminating the drastic steps we are taking (and must take, for the profession) today.

 

[Jetjockey]

Which is better? A job in which one gets 70 percent of what he wants, or no job? In this economy especially? I feel these union guys are nuts.

Some prefer to fight and die with a sword in their hands, some prefer getting on their knees pleading. We can clearly see which you'd choose.

Yeah, those pesky union guys.....that's the problem.

 

[Flopgut]

I'm an ALPA member. I for one would not mind being assessed some money to be spent helping APA. What does APA need right now? Money? Legal?

 

[olympus593]

Which is better? A job in which one gets 70 percent of what he wants, or no job? In this economy especially? I feel these union guys are nuts.

I bet you pee sitting down.

 

[HA25]

Which is better? A job in which one gets 70 percent of what he wants, or no job? In this economy especially? I feel these union guys are nuts.

you have got to be one of the most clueless "pilots" I've ever seen, if you are even a pilot... do you even understand the industry you chose to work in?

 

[fam62c]

This is a good message to the creditors.....equity in a reorganized airline that doesn't work is worth little or nothing. Cramming something down the pilot's throats isn't going to result in a functional airline. There's a difference between what Horton wants and what he needs to get the company reorganized, he's going for a big land grab and it's not going to work.

 

[Boxboy]

Which is better? A job in which one gets 70 percent of what he wants, or no job? In this economy especially? I feel these union guys are nuts.

How about 30%? Would you take 50%? How about 60%.... or 59.9%? Yeah..... you do pee sitting down and you probably don't even have a vagina!

 

[HA25]

How about 30%? Would you take 50%? How about 60%.... or 59.9%? Yeah..... you do pee sitting down and you probably don't even have a vagina!

something tells me he's work for free in order to save his boss... some people are inflicted with the worse sort of "protestant work ethic" imaginable..

 

[B-atch]

Which is better? A job in which one gets 70 percent of what he wants, or no job? In this economy especially? I feel these union guys are nuts.

YOU, Sir, are part of the PROBLEM!!
I guess living in gov. housing and having your bank account and property nationalized isn't so bad either. At least YOU are not facing a firing squad!!
Grow some will you!

 

[BentOver]

Don't mind G4... He's a Netjets Gulfstream pilot... Was formerly on the NON-UNION Netjets International side... And has been pissed off and anti-union ever since he was forced to join the Netjets North America side and the in house union at Netjets...

He's probably the most despised poster on the fractional side.. His identity has never been revealed, but he is undoubtedly a feable man with very little backbone. We established that fact this time last year when the merger happened amongst the Netjets divisions.

He represents everything the furloughed Netjets pilots despise. An all about me attitude. He undoubtedly would screw over his fellow pilots to either save his own ass or for personal gain....

He is best suited for some corporate flight job where the aviation employees have to spend countless hours on their knees pleasing their bosses. Which is what he most likely did while at the non-union Netjets International division.

 

[Boxboy]

He is best suited for some corporate flight job where the aviation employees have to spend countless hours on their knees pleasing their bosses. Which is what he most likely did while at the non-union Netjets International division.

G4 may be a hermaphrodite then!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I'm certain the lot of them couldn't manage a whorehouse at a navy shipyard.

Whorehouse/shipyard? Where and are they hiring pilots?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

No, but I just got hired as a piano player, my mom is finally proud of me.

 

[G4dude]

Don't mind G4... He's a Netjets Gulfstream pilot... Was formerly on the NON-UNION Netjets International side... And has been pissed off and anti-union ever since he was forced to join the Netjets North America side and the in house union at Netjets...

He's probably the most despised poster on the fractional side.. His identity has never been revealed, but he is undoubtedly a feable man with very little backbone. We established that fact this time last year when the merger happened amongst the Netjets divisions.

He represents everything the furloughed Netjets pilots despise. An all about me attitude. He undoubtedly would screw over his fellow pilots to either save his own ass or for personal gain....

He is best suited for some corporate flight job where the aviation employees have to spend countless hours on their knees pleasing their bosses. Which is what he most likely did while at the non-union Netjets International division.

I think he doesn't like me.

 

[G4dude]

All I was suggesting was maybe acting to hurt your employer while it is in financial trouble might cause a lot of pilots to lose their jobs. Is this observation some sort of radical idea? I do so enjoy the allusions to my genital size and urinating habits. When union crazies react this way, it kinda makes my point, don't you think?

 

[jdubya]

If your gonna be in this profession you should always be a student not only of flying but of the business. Take a little time to learn what the AA guys have been through in the past and the actions of their management, and you may be able to see (just a little) of their perspective, but indeed it takes a couple of decades to truly get a feel for it.

 

[doylehargraves]

All I was suggesting was maybe acting to hurt your employer while it is in financial trouble might cause a lot of pilots to lose their jobs. Is this observation some sort of radical idea? I do so enjoy the allusions to my genital size and urinating habits. When union crazies react this way, it kinda makes my point, don't you think?

And their employer has been bending them over for the last 18+ years in a row while upper mgmt takes record bonuses. I don't know about you but, it seems the best way to hurt rich people is to take their money. It's the only recourse they have. What do you expect them to do G4? What, in your brilliant mind that we all admire and enjoy greatly on a daily basis, would you do if someone continually lied and stole from you the greater part of your career? How would you impact their decisions other than what is being done genius? Please, I'm begging, give us some of your outstanding business expertise so that we all might learn something from your never ending knowledge of modern business systems and economic systemic management laden problems? We all know you have the right answer for everything, please, don't make us wait any longer to share your mountain of experience at top levels of union leadership and management.

 

[G4dude]

And their employer has been bending them over for the last 18+ years in a row while upper mgmt takes record bonuses. I don't know about you but, it seems the best way to hurt rich people is to take their money. It's the only recourse they have. What do you expect them to do G4? What, in your brilliant mind that we all admire and enjoy greatly on a daily basis, would you do if someone continually lied and stole from you the greater part of your career? How would you impact their decisions other than what is being done genius? Please, I'm begging, give us some of your outstanding business expertise so that we all might learn something from your never ending knowledge of modern business systems and economic systemic management laden problems? We all know you have the right answer for everything, please, don't make us wait any longer to share your mountain of experience at top levels of union leadership and management.

I would leave for a better job. Which I have done before.

 

[G4dude]

If your gonna be in this profession you should always be a student not only of flying but of the business. Take a little time to learn what the AA guys have been through in the past and the actions of their management, and you may be able to see (just a little) of their perspective, but indeed it takes a couple of decades to truly get a feel for it.

I am sorry for what AA did to the pilots in the past. Isn't further endangering AA's survival now counterproductive? With the current economy in malaise, maybe now is not the time. That's all. By the way, after what the AA unions did to TWA, I have a little difficulty sympathizing now, actually.

 

[imacdog]

A little more background on G4:

If you freaking morons ever strike NJA, I will definitely scab. So will almost all my colleagues at the former NJI.