FLEXJETs 2NN IS A LIAR

GE6108A

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I don't know when people who are working at Flex are going to figure it out, but your boss is a liar. NetJets isn't furloughing anybody and have fun working for free boys.
 

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I saw the AIN article today about NetJets flying medical supplies from China to NYC. Some companies do the right thing without trying to advertise it. No press releases, no B.S. That was discovered via flight tracking unlike some companies who claim to support their frontline worker while they take their pay and benefits and claim to be a family.
 

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I feel bad for the folks that voted to not decertify. They’re the ones that will bear the brunt of this. Rumor...and I stress Rumor, some are basically working for “free” over there. Can anyone confirm or deny?
 

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I feel bad for the folks that voted to not decertify. They’re the ones that will bear the brunt of this. Rumor...and I stress Rumor, some are basically working for “free” over there. Can anyone confirm or deny?
False. Everyone is reduced to 10 days for month which is a guarantee. If one is flying for more days, they are paid a daily rate which the overage is banked and paid after 90 days. Some may argue that the extra days worked is “free”, but most unselfish right-minded people will embrace the temporary pay cut to keep everyone on the payroll.


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Working now to maybe get paid three months down the line, at the very least is a loan to the company with negative interest. Then add in that your 401K match has been taken away.......
 

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False. Everyone is reduced to 10 days for month which is a guarantee. If one is flying for more days, they are paid a daily rate which the overage is banked and paid after 90 days. Some may argue that the extra days worked is “free”, but most unselfish right-minded people will embrace the temporary pay cut to keep everyone on the payroll.


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We could have achieved the same results, if not better, by simply temporarily shuttering the red label program.

You know I'm not wrong. Paying 1/3 of your pilot group up to 40% more to sit at home does not make sense.

In these trying times, I'm grateful to have a job and even more grateful I didn't make the jump to 121. I think biz-av will eventually score big when we get back to work but in the mean time the exhorbitant payroll costs of Red Label is hurting the pilot group as a whole right now.

To be honest, I'm happy we don't have a union right now. Swiftness and hard lines are the only way to stay afloat right now. Management has my support for the time being. I hope they are willing to do what's right for everyone, not just a chosen few.
 

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We could have achieved the same results, if not better, by simply temporarily shuttering the red label program.

You know I'm not wrong. Paying 1/3 of your pilot group up to 40% more to sit at home does not make sense.

In these trying times, I'm grateful to have a job and even more grateful I didn't make the jump to 121. I think biz-av will eventually score big when we get back to work but in the mean time the exhorbitant payroll costs of Red Label is hurting the pilot group as a whole right now.

To be honest, I'm happy we don't have a union right now. Swiftness and hard lines are the only way to stay afloat right now. Management has my support for the time being. I hope they are willing to do what's right for everyone, not just a chosen few.
Don’t be surprised if you never see that money N2 is saying you’re going to get. Without the union you’re glad you don’t have, you have no recourse.


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To be honest, I'm happy we don't have a union right now. Swiftness and hard lines are the only way to stay afloat right now. Management has my support for the time being. I hope they are willing to do what's right for everyone, not just a chosen few.
Are you daft man?! Kenn's number one guiding principle is to take care of the chosen few while letting the rest feed on the scraps. Hence the existence of RL to begin with. I can almost buy dropping everyone to 10 days a month, esp if demand has dropped significantly. But not paying people for time worked over 10 days and more importantly suspending the 401k match for 90 days just plain sucks. While the match wasn't all that great that's def money you'll never get back. If Kenn is really hurting for cash that bad maybe he should ask Notre Dame for some of his money back.
 

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Take it easy guys. If this aviation thing doesn’t work out, there’s always porn.
 

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False. Everyone is reduced to 10 days for month which is a guarantee. If one is flying for more days, they are paid a daily rate which the overage is banked and paid after 90 days. Some may argue that the extra days worked is “free”, but most unselfish right-minded people will embrace the temporary pay cut to keep everyone on the payroll.


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Hence...why I said rumor. :0
 

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Are you daft man?! Kenn's number one guiding principle is to take care of the chosen few while letting the rest feed on the scraps. Hence the existence of RL to begin with. I can almost buy dropping everyone to 10 days a month, esp if demand has dropped significantly. But not paying people for time worked over 10 days and more importantly suspending the 401k match for 90 days just plain sucks. While the match wasn't all that great that's def money you'll never get back. If Kenn is really hurting for cash that bad maybe he should ask Notre Dame for some of his money back.
All true!!! However most of the pilots at Flex have taken the bait hook, line and sinker that they are "family" and that 2NN and management have their backs. They are so stupid that if you took their brain out of their heads and put it into a chicken, the chicken would go to the butcher!
 

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All true!!! However most of the pilots at Flex have taken the bait hook, line and sinker that they are "family" and that 2NN and management have their backs. They are so stupid that if you took their brain out of their heads and put it into a chicken, the chicken would go to the butcher!
Yet you still work there...what were you saying about brains, chickens and stupidity?
 

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Take it easy guys. If this aviation thing doesn’t work out, there’s always porn.
Does watching Flextions pilots take it up the tailpipe constitute porn?

Yet you still work there...what were you saying about brains, chickens and stupidity?
Who do you think Propilot is cause I'm pretty sure they don't work there anymore.
 

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Yet you still work there...what were you saying about brains, chickens and stupidity?
He hasn’t worked there for quite some time.
 

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Yet you still work there...what were you saying about brains, chickens and stupidity?
So so wrong I haven’t worked for the ass clown operation for quite some time. If I remember correctly from my past employment there...your a 300 guy. 😉
 

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So so wrong I haven’t worked for the ass clown operation for quite some time. If I remember correctly from my past employment there...your a 300 guy. 😉
I stand corrected. Nope, not a 300 guy.
 

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We could have achieved the same results, if not better, by simply temporarily shuttering the red label program.

You know I'm not wrong. Paying 1/3 of your pilot group up to 40% more to sit at home does not make sense.

In these trying times, I'm grateful to have a job and even more grateful I didn't make the jump to 121. I think biz-av will eventually score big when we get back to work but in the mean time the exhorbitant payroll costs of Red Label is hurting the pilot group as a whole right now.

To be honest, I'm happy we don't have a union right now. Swiftness and hard lines are the only way to stay afloat right now. Management has my support for the time being. I hope they are willing to do what's right for everyone, not just a chosen few.
And this exactly why Ricci does what he wants with you guys with zero recourse. Grow a spine, for crying out loud!
 

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So 2N took the bail out money. Now we got a group of socialist pilots on the government tit.
Hope he caught up your pay and 401k.
 
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