Flexjet question

[can99]

Can someone answer the following without going on a rant tangent for a new hire :

1. Basing, do you choose or does Flexjet choose?

1a: $4000 moving allowance, do they pay the $4000 or up to $4k based on the receipts you produce after you move?

2. Aircraft type... do you as a newhire get to bid or request a type, or is it what the need is on the day of hire?

3.Reserve time... is there reserve at Flex ...or do you go straight to a schedule?


Thanx in advance !
can99

 

[Propilot77]

Can someone answer the following without going on a rant tangent for a new hire :

1. Basing, do you choose or does Flexjet choose?

1a: $4000 moving allowance, do they pay the $4000 or up to $4k based on the receipts you produce after you move?

2. Aircraft type... do you as a newhire get to bid or request a type, or is it what the need is on the day of hire?

3.Reserve time... is there reserve at Flex ...or do you go straight to a schedule?


Thanx in advance !
can99

These questions have been answered about 100 times but here you go.
1. You get to chose
1a. 4k regardless
2. They tell you. It's based on company demand.
3. Yes we do have reserve. You will get forced reserve for a while until you have enough senority to hold a line.

 

[Club ORD FO]

well...I dont agree with all those answers completely

1a. The $4,000 will be about $1900 after taxes and 401k.

2. Mostly company demand, but plenty of people are given a choice if there are lots of classes running. I was offered the 45, or the 60 a week later, so I took the 60 and a couple of weeks off.

3. yes there is reserve, but you might not be forced onto it if a few people above you bid for it. and besides, it is not like airline reserve, it basically just means you get your schedule a bit later than eveyrbody else. it ends up being no different. you don't wake up in the morning wondering if you have to work or not.

 

[Propilot77]

well...I dont agree with all those answers completely

1a. The $4,000 will be about $1900 after taxes and 401k.

2. Mostly company demand, but plenty of people are given a choice if there are lots of classes running. I was offered the 45, or the 60 a week later, so I took the 60 and a couple of weeks off.

3. yes there is reserve, but you might not be forced onto it if a few people above you bid for it. and besides, it is not like airline reserve, it basically just means you get your schedule a bit later than eveyrbody else. it ends up being no different. you don't wake up in the morning wondering if you have to work or not.

well how did i end up with forced reserve for 3 months then? a very very good chance for forced reserve.

 

[Club ORD FO]

well how did i end up with forced reserve for 3 months then? a very very good chance for forced reserve.

yeah fair enough. Maybe I was just lucky getting a hard schedule right off the bat.

 

[SDCFI]

well how did i end up with forced reserve for 3 months then? a very very good chance for forced reserve.

Very airplane dependent is how. I'm on the 45 and only did one month on reserve. I hear the 300 works hard and is short-staffed so it may be longer until staffing catches up. Can't speak for the 60 or the 604. Also depends on how many people above you bid reserve, the more that do means less chance of it being forced. Unfortunately it's not like the airlines where you can look at a bid pack and get a pretty good idea of what you can hold, here you never know until the bid comes out.

 

[Propilot77]

Hey guys by the way I hear we are 21 Captains short in the 45 fleet! So time for upgrade!

 

[On Your Six]

Hey guys by the way I hear we are 21 Captains short in the 45 fleet! So time for upgrade!

Is that due to growth or attrition? Are those remaining former 45 captains upgrading to the CL300/604 in most cases?

 

[CL300Pilot]

For the most part growth.

We have had three 45 captains go to SWA. We lost one guy to a medical reason and another retire. All upgrades from the lears are going into the 300. The 300 is just selling like crazy.

The 604 continues to be a stagnant fleet. We are supposed to upgrade 40 guys/gals by the end of the year. Best guess on seniority number would be around seniority number 280 to 290 for the upgrades by years end.

Flex is forcast to continue to bring on 7 Challenger 300's a year for the next 3 to 4 years. That equates to roughly 21 captains and 14 copilots a year for then next 3 to 4 years.

Is that due to growth or attrition? Are those remaining former 45 captains upgrading to the CL300/604 in most cases?

 

[Propilot77]

For the most part growth.

We have had three 45 captains go to SWA. We lost one guy to a medical reason and another retire. All upgrades from the lears are going into the 300. The 300 is just selling like crazy.

The 604 continues to be a stagnant fleet. We are supposed to upgrade 40 guys/gals by the end of the year. Best guess on seniority number would be around seniority number 280 to 290 for the upgrades by years end.

Flex is forcast to continue to bring on 7 Challenger 300's a year for the next 3 to 4 years. That equates to roughly 21 captains and 14 copilots a year for then next 3 to 4 years.

300 said it right a lot of guys going to the 300 also just found out Flex got 60 PRIA requests recently!

 

[Flyingdog1]

Go to NJA !

 

[walshsfly]

Go to NJA !

WOW it only took 11 post for someone to say that. If you can't answer the question then don't respond.

On that note, I have been here at Flex 21 months and I am going to upgrade class in just over a week.

 

[bailey3083]

Go to NJA !

Actually only 3 of those were for NJA the other 57 were from the Legacy carriers, Southwest, Frontier and one from AirTran.

Bailey

 

[Club ORD FO]

wow, so Bailey that 60 PRIA requests number is accurate? I assumed it was an exaggeration. Wow... good news for us folks waiting for the upgrade. I wonder which half of the senority list most of those are from...

 

[bailey3083]

wow, so Bailey that 60 PRIA requests number is accurate? I assumed it was an exaggeration. Wow... good news for us folks waiting for the upgrade. I wonder which half of the senority list most of those are from...

All over and yes it is correct. In fact in October we had 3 who went to SWA and 1 to Frontier.

Bailey

 

[Wankel7]

1a. The $4,000 will be about $1900 after taxes and 401k.

Wait what....you lose over 52% every every paycheck to 401k and taxes? How much do you stuff into your 401k?

 

[Club ORD FO]

Wait what....you lose over 52% every every paycheck to 401k and taxes? How much do you stuff into your 401k?

no, the relocation check is a "bonus" and so it is taxed at a higher rate than your normal paycheck. I think I was putting in 10% into my 401k when I got that.

 

[Flyingdog1]

WOW it only took 11 post for someone to say that. If you can't answer the question then don't respond.

On that note, I have been here at Flex 21 months and I am going to upgrade class in just over a week.

What!? Are you the self appointed moderator?

Why would a pilot go to work at Flex as opposed to NJA?

Can99, will make more as a first year FO, than you will as a first year Capt.

- he will start accruing sick days at one a month on day one of employment. You had 0 for the whole first year you worked.

- he can be based at more than 100 cities w/ NJA, not just 4.

-his insurance premiums are 100% paid. What do you pay, Walsh?

- He will get paid his daily rate and half for all federal holidays, Flex crew gets 25 dollars per crew for diner on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

- He won't start his first day until 8 am at NJA. 6 am at Flex.

- he will be paid for a 7 day vacation, 5 day at Flex.


There are plenty more benefits to working at NJA as to Flex, you can read their old contract and current TA yourselves.

Walsh, I'm looking foward to your answers of my questions. I hope you can answer them, or at least the first couple.

 

[Wiggums]

no, the relocation check is a "bonus" and so it is taxed at a higher rate than your normal paycheck.

Sure it is. And it's also not worth working overtime because the IRS takes 50% of that also. [/sarcasm]

 

[walshsfly]

What!? Are you the self appointed moderator?

Why would a pilot go to work at Flex as opposed to NJA?

Can99, will make more as a first year FO, than you will as a first year Capt.

- he will start accruing sick days at one a month on day one of employment. You had 0 for the whole first year you worked.

- he can be based at more than 100 cities w/ NJA, not just 4.

-his insurance premiums are 100% paid. What do you pay, Walsh?

- He will get paid his daily rate and half for all federal holidays, Flex crew gets 25 dollars per crew for diner on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

- He won't start his first day until 8 am at NJA. 6 am at Flex.

- he will be paid for a 7 day vacation, 5 day at Flex.


There are plenty more benefits to working at NJA as to Flex, you can read their old contract and current TA yourselves.

Walsh, I'm looking foward to your answers of my questions. I hope you can answer them, or at least the first couple.

No I am not a self appointed moderator, but why is a question asked about Flexjet always get hijacked buy some idiot talking about nj?

And why would someone want to work here instead of there, because of your attitudes first, and second because even your owners like us better (thats first hand comments from your owners that have flown on my plane.)

Now everything you listed only happens if your TA passes, but we will see if that happens. Its a shame you have to sell out retirement for the new guys, but hey your young what do you care (right now)