Flexjet Pilot Authorization Card

[XBI]

Doyle, Vixin is right..... Go to the f***in interview, then decide. By the time the process is complete, maybe DG will have gotten off the pot.

 

[BombJet45]

Vixin is right. Go to the interview with the mindset of obtaining a career with the best fractionally rewarded pilots. Once you get the offer then decide. Don't think two or three years down the road, think more like 10 years to where you want to be.

 

[bailey3083]

Well, I just got the call for a NJ interview. Debating on whether to go or not. It's been well over a year since I applied and just now heard something. I hate the thought of being at the bottom again but, it's hard to not consider more money and more time off and better benefits. Will Flexjet step up? Who knows.

Go to the interview the worse thing that can happen is you have a choice to make.
After listening to management pat us on the back during turkey day I wonder if we are going to get another pat on the back or a bitch slap across the face come April. Who Knows.

 

[CA1900]

Well, I just got the call for a NJ interview... I hate the thought of being at the bottom again ...

Always a gamble, no doubt. Latest word is we're shooting to hire nearly 600 next year, so if you're ahead of that wave, it might not be so bad!

I'd interview and check us out. We'll know by 12/7 if the new contract went through or not. I have a feeling this message board know very shortly after the rest of us do.

 

[bailey3083]

Always a gamble, no doubt. Latest word is we're shooting to hire nearly 600 next year, so if you're ahead of that wave, it might not be so bad!

I'd interview and check us out. We'll know by 12/7 if the new contract went through or not. I have a feeling this message board know very shortly after the rest of us do.

I am hearing from friends that NetJets is no longer accepting resumes/applications? True?

 

[CA1900]

I am hearing from friends that NetJets is no longer accepting resumes/applications? True?

No, not true. There was a rumor floating around last month, but it proved to not be correct. The floodgates are still open.

 

[fischman]

I am hearing from friends that NetJets is no longer accepting resumes/applications? True?

Not true

 

[RubberDuck]

Some FlexJet pilots are waiting for the cards to be sent to them, this is not true. You have to go to the WWW.IBT1108.ORG/ web site to download the card and either mail it or fax it in, WE ARE NOT AS CLOSE AS EVERONE BELIEVES...FYI

 

[skyismyoffice]

good point...

I just went to the link and printed a few out to leave around the FBO. I'm not a Flex pilot but we can all help.

 

[doylehargraves]

Rubberduck,

You are misinformed. WE ARE VERY CLOSE.

 

[bailey3083]

I am seeing the cards show up in cans, stock lockers and it was rumored some one was working with the Holiday Inn TEB to hand them to pilots when they check in. Also have watched some kool aid drinkers throw them away afraid they will get fired for touching them.

 

[BombJet45]

Most everyone will end Up at the pickle bar sooNer or later. That mIght make a good place fOr those who want to find oNe.
There or at the Christmas party when people walk into the room. Kind of like a door prize.

 

[fischman]

Most everyone will end Up at the pickle bar sooNer or later. That mIght make a good place fOr those who want to find oNe.
There or at the Christmas party when people walk into the room. Kind of like a door prize.

Subtle

 

[finnjl]

5 year lear captain at Flex 87,776 (208 days)
5 year captain at NetJet 90,000 (180 days)

10 year (challenger) captain at Flex 117,936
10 year captain at NetJet 106,000

I have a lot of hotel time this weekend so I looked up pay. It looks like that after 10 years pay is better at Flex than NetJets. The difference is the days worked. 7 on 7 off yields less days worked. So you would have to factor that into the pay. I would imagine if factored the pay would be lower at Flex based on days worked. (personally i like working 4 on 3 off) Also, you would have to consider benefits and I did not do that.

 

[gunfyter]

I am showing 10 year NJ captain flying a BeechJet or a Falcon @ $145K. Plus $1000 for every holiday worked.

216 days per year minus 21 vacation days and flying from 100 bases of their choice nationwide

Live long and prosper...

 

[finnjl]

I do not know about NetJets pay that well. I used airline pilot central for the charts. I have not seen the new pay if the contract passes. About what percentage raise is it?

Here is some more interesting stuff.
AA 10 year captain on Super 80 is 119,808
UA 747 captain makes 143,520

I guess no one in aviation is going to get rich. I guess just living well is about the best we can expect in any area, either the fracs or legacy type carriers.

I am not sure why i posted this here but maybe it is not too bad at Flex.

 

[gunfyter]

There was no straight percentage over all years but for year 10, 216 day schedule it looks like it would equate to about 15% from about $126K to about $145K. Large portion of increase ws to junior years.

 

[Club ORD FO]

5 year lear captain at Flex 87,776 (208 days)
5 year captain at NetJet 90,000 (180 days)

10 year (challenger) captain at Flex 117,936
10 year captain at NetJet 106,000

I do not believe a union is right around the corner for Flex.

Wow Finn your numbers are way off. Where to start? first off, why are you using 208 days? 15.5*13 = 201.5 (rounded to 202)

FlexJet pay:
5 year lear captain (year 4 scale) = $406/day or $82,012/year
10 year Challenger captain (year 9 scale) = $547/day or $110,494/year

NetJets soon to be new pay on 7/7 (182 days/year)
5 year captain: $551/day or $100,408
10 year captain: $655/day or $119,254/year (not sure if this is citation X pay or not, is it higher?)

And NJ is about to have a "15 day flex" which will be something like the 4/3 you like (not sure their exact on/off structure). But that schedule will pay even MORE!!!

Bottom line, NJ works less but gets paid more. Flex is below industry average.

 

[finnjl]

I work 208 days at Flex (16 days per period times 13) that is where I came up with that craziness.

I agree that we work more at Flex which means we essentially get paid less but I was just putting numbers up as I am suffering from hotel bordumb.

the info I got was from airline pilot central

 

[Club ORD FO]

Okay fair enough. The best way to do an apples to apples comparison is to just look at the daily rates across the industry. Flexjet is #3, with Options pulling up the rear.