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Safetycheck said:
Are you hawkered, cause both of you seem to have the same issue with SAFETY. Whats the problem?

Given your propensity for flamebaiting, I'd say you're the antithesis of safety. More like a pyromaniac.

At any rate, off to the ignore list you go. Good bye.
 
This is not Rick, just a fellow pilot.

There are lots of people here fighting for QOL. You are in the minority in the way that you go about it. Listening to you talk about professionalism is like listening to Jerry Springer give a lecture about integrity. Your profile refers to your Johnson. If you want changes, make a valid and professional presentation that someone can respect. Don't call a 20% raise a steaming pile. This is a top notch job and on May 1st it will get even better. If you don't agree, leave.

I would rather work 18 days a month with someone who enjoys what they do than sit with you for half of that. People like you will never be satisfied and the rest of us are sick of listening to you. If I were a perspective customer and I read anything on this website, I would buy my own plane and never get on a fractional. The attitude alone would make me run scared. Some of you even try and make it sound like maintenance is compromised, which is nonsense. To anyone reading this: These guys do not represent the vast majority of crews here. Unfortunately, the empty cans happen to rattle the loudest.
 
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The BS version....:).....the empty cans happen to rattle the loudest.

My version.......The empty promises happen to rattle the loudest.

Given the number of cards that have been turned in, I think the empty promises
deserve the credit for waking up the pilots. To those who are confused by BS,
I suggest you sleep on it. :)
NJW
 
This is amazing how fast these company tools came out of the woodwork.
We now have many FamilyGuys. They are multiplying. I guess they figured they did not have enough of them on the boards last time, so now they are going to try overwhelming force.
I can only imagine what we are going to see once negiotations start at Flex and Options.
 
Uuuuhhhh Whatever Rick....

Mr Brightside --

By the way no one cares if you are or aren't Rick -- it was a joke and a way of pointing out you are just a company stooge. Besides, apart from my disgust with his approval of the contract, I think Rick would show a few more stones and a much thicker skin than you could ever hope for.

Just who exactly is being unprofessional -- look in the mirror dude. You chose to attack Necros's profile instead of any one of a number of salient points raised by numerous people on this board. Then again it's kinda hard to challenge truth and accuracy isn't it?

In fact, one might say it's management's lack of truth and accuracy that has made them so vunerable right now. As for the stuff about prospective customers, you might be right -- time for management to get on the stick and shoot this puppy before it grows to be a rottweiler don't you think? I hope your fellow office boys listen to the one great point you might have...

You are obviously in the minority here. But then again being in the minority opinion of flex pilots in general didn't stop you to begin with. So if everyone follows your logic you should be the one to leave and stop posting. Now do you see how idiotic it is to start playing the my way or the highway game? Keep it coming guy, I'm off all day and can play as long as you want.

As for maintenance I do not recall anyone saying anything about it being compromised. In fact, the top notch equipment has been a reason many people have stated they want to stay and fight this thing out. Now who's making up BS?

This is a group of men (and at least one very tough lady I have no doubt could hog tie us pigs in any good fight) and if you can't be a man, you leave. Don't attack a man based on his admittedly juvenile but also admittedly funny use of intresting descriptors. That's just men dude -- get over it and move on. Are you sure you're not a fourth grader -- you sound like you don't know a lot about the real world. Honest question, really. Now I'm not saying you need to be like him, I'm just saying be a man and attack his point with something that matters. Now Necro I can see your wheels spinning -- leave that last one alone.

Don't worry about having to work with any of us for 18 days -- you office boys only get out for a few days every couple of months anyway. Another part of the problem... Don't get me started.

Yeah we'll see what we get in May when the company uses our unionizing efforts against us to claim they can no longer give us the raise because of federal regs (BS BS BS). Peferctly timed deceit. They are nothing if not clever little dudes. That or they will give it to us anyway with a statment like "our lawyers found a way to help us give this to you despite federal regs -- see you don't need a union, we're there for you" and try to stop the drive.

Now go give Daddy back the computer sweetheart, this is a place for real men (and one tough cookie wife) dear.




mr brightside said:
This is not Rick, just a fellow pilot.

There are lots of people here fighting for QOL. You are in the minority in the way that you go about it. Listening to you talk about professionalism is like listening to Jerry Springer give a lecture about integrity. Your profile refers to your Johnson. If you want changes, make a valid and professional presentation that someone can respect. Don't call a 20% raise a steaming pile. This is a top notch job and on May 1st it will get even better. If you don't agree, leave.

I would rather work 18 days a month with someone who enjoys what they do than sit with you for half of that. People like you will never be satisfied and the rest of us are sick of listening to you. If I were a perspective customer and I read anything on this website, I would buy my own plane and never get on a fractional. The attitude alone would make me run scared. Some of you even try and make it sound like maintenance is compromised, which is nonsense. To anyone reading this: These guys do not represent the vast majority of crews here. Unfortunately, the empty cans happen to rattle the loudest.
 
I don't think putting the company in a position to keep our raise is a wise one. Legal or not legal, we all know the pay will be frozen if there are enough union votes prior to May 1st. It would take years to get that money back in a court room. If you still want to continue with organized labor after May 1 (raise or no raise), there is nothing to stop you. Prior to their contract, Netjets pay had been frozen since the Clinton administration. At least wait until our pay goes up before you try to force the freeze. If we don't get a raise on May 1st, I'll be the first to sign up.
 
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Mr. BS, if that were to happen--you being first in line to stand up for your rights--would you also be demanding Retro pay for the raise they would have unfairly withheld? After all, it has been promised before a union has been organized-- so the one has no bearing on the other. Prior commitments are allowed to be kept. Feeling as strongly as you do (taking you at your word, here) about holding the company to their word, I'm wondering where you stand on the broken promises the pilots have witnessed to date.

Just curious,
NJW
 
Thanks kind sir! I couldn't resist! Not that I would have wanted to anyway.
I firmly believe that ALL pilots should get what they have coming to them! :)
 
Just turned on the computer, and look who's back. It's Mr. BS.
Are you a first time long time? (If you have to ask...)


mr brightside said:
This is not Rick, just a fellow pilot.

There are lots of people here fighting for QOL. You are in the minority in the way that you go about it. Listening to you talk about professionalism is like listening to Jerry Springer give a lecture about integrity. Your profile refers to your Johnson. If you want changes, make a valid and professional presentation that someone can respect. Don't call a 20% raise a steaming pile. This is a top notch job and on May 1st it will get even better. If you don't agree, leave.

I would rather work 18 days a month with someone who enjoys what they do than sit with you for half of that. People like you will never be satisfied and the rest of us are sick of listening to you. If I were a perspective customer and I read anything on this website, I would buy my own plane and never get on a fractional. The attitude alone would make me run scared. Some of you even try and make it sound like maintenance is compromised, which is nonsense. To anyone reading this: These guys do not represent the vast majority of crews here. Unfortunately, the empty cans happen to rattle the loudest.

Is that all you've got? Attack my profile? How about my avatar? Should I change it to pink bunnies.

What ever, dude. Go back to the BB where you can hear the company song and dance. I see you've been drinking that company Kool-Aide.
Set down the cup, and open your eyes.

You don't like me... GREAT. You don't get my Humor...too bad :crying: I'M JUST ALL TORE UP.

We will fight to make this a better place, even for you.

I have work to do, and I don't have time to engage your CandyA$$ arguments.

But, I still need a hug
 

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