Flex furloughs again

[GSXR600]

Sadly, a number of the senior guys must jump all over the overtime as they managed to outlive their wages.

And no, there is nothing approaching unity in this pilot group.

I guess mother RUSSIA will be very happy to jump all over this overtime since he is already trying to pick up extra days on BB..never seen someone soo greedy in my life!

 

[Propilot77]

Ditto!

 

[Ludicris]

That's what happens when a guy gets a mail-order bride, and buys a McMansion!

 

[bunman45]

I'm still trying to figure out why people on the BB like to suck managements d#$$. If everybody spoke up, they would think twice before screwing us. They would probably still screw us, but at least they'll think twice about it.

 

[Ace75]

I'm still trying to figure out why people on the BB like to suck managements d#$$. If everybody spoke up, they would think twice before screwing us. They would probably still screw us, but at least they'll think twice about it.

tell me about it, reading the last 4 posts on the "pay cut" thread makes me want to puke

 

[SDCFI]

You know what they say: the squeaky wheel gets the grease. First it was crew meals. Problem: They're not good so we're not eating them. Solution: no more standby food, go get your own! Here's a novel idea, lets get better food we'll actually eat! Didn't see that one on the BB, only saw how cutting crew meals would reduce costs. Didn't seem to save any jobs.

Now we get a reduction in yield, which people have been asking for since I started 2 years ago. Of course they're saying on the BB how it's a good thing and when flying picks up it'll go back up. Hmm, how bout we leave it where it is and raise the daily rate to even up the pay? Didn't see that either.

Didn't Fred Reid just say they wouldn't cut pay because we'd have too many underpaid employees vs the right amount of well-paid people? I bid down to 14 or 15 anyway, so if management wants to keep any goodwill from me they'll keep the reduced workdays and up the daily rate to make us more even with the other Fracs (CS and NJA).

 

[DirtyBeech]

Poor Fred Reid. He's just had a helluva bad run of luck in his management career.

 

[Nolife]

Poor Fred Reid. He's just had a helluva bad run of luck in his management career.

Yeah poor FR... I wonder what kind of job he'll scrape together in order to feed his kids?

Oh I forgot he's still got a job.

 

[DirtyBeech]

I'm not worried about him feeding his kids. He'll probably get a bonus for executing our pay cut.

 

[jonjuan]

more fun on the way according to [sic] rumours.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Sweet. Maybe we can go back to forced 7/3's and mac n' cheese for crew meals.

 

[vixin]

Just dont Fed Ex the mac and cheese to the office.

 

[Ref]

more fun on the way according to [sic] rumours.

So what are the newest rumors?

 

[bunman45]

Once a week, Fred will shove a live snake up our ass.

 

[FMR8251]

Once a week, Fred will shove a live snake up our ass.

Back down to only once a week, that sounds like good news to me.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Phew!!!! I thought it was back to pineapples.

 

[SDCFI]

Once a week, Fred will shove a live snake up our ass.

What kind of snake?

 

[Nolife]

What kind of snake?

Does it matter? It's a snake, with teeth. Maybe getting laid off was a blessing in disguise... naa... still better to have a job even if they weekly shove snakes up your rectum.

 

[lunberg]

I'm not worried about him feeding his kids. He'll probably get a bonus for executing our pay cut.

EXACTLY!!!!

 

[Dooker]

So what are the rumors? More cuts? Forced 7-and-3's. Becasue if this keeps up I might just have to get back into pimping.

 

[doh]

Wait, I thought that's what you're doing on FI?:laugh:

 

[Dooker]

I wish!

 

[Rouge Warrior]

10 hours off 14 on is coming

 

[FastJP4]

Look to the "leaders" past track record to know your future. Good luck.

 

[Imissmypilot]

Maybe a bit wiser now?

Hopefully the pilot group is a bit wiser now. We could've been in the process of getting our union established at this point if we had voted it in back in Jan 08 before this last round of "raises" were announced. This would've saved all those 85 guys from getting furloughed and we would've still had the 16 day lines.

Unfortuneately, the pilot group had the



upper hand at that point, remember the
weekly voice messages from DG prior
to the raise about how important we all
were. We let that opportunity pass, and
I said then that it was only a matter of
time before the raise would be gone and
now here we are.

All I hope is all my coworkers at Flex will wise up and realize that managements big smoke screen that we're "one big happy family" is bs. They are concerned about their bottomline, not the pilots well being.

Wise up, guys!

 

[B19 Flyer]

Hopefully the pilot group is a bit wiser now. We could've been in the process of getting our union established at this point if we had voted it in back in Jan 08 before this last round of "raises" were announced. This would've saved all those 85 guys from getting furloughed and we would've still had the 16 day lines.

Unfortuneately, the pilot group had the
upper hand at that point, remember the
weekly voice messages from DG prior
to the raise about how important we all
were. We let that opportunity pass, and
I said then that it was only a matter of
time before the raise would be gone and
now here we are.

All I hope is all my coworkers at Flex will wise up and realize that managements big smoke screen that we're "one big happy family" is bs. They are concerned about their bottomline, not the pilots well being.

Wise up, guys!

Hate to disagree, but if you had voted it in, you'd be in the same shape as FLOPS. First time contracts take years (three or more on the average) and lots of turmoil before they are put into play. None of those jobs would have been saved, if anything, it could have been even worse due to the normal bad blood of union labor relations. Even when it goes "good" lots of people suffer.

Be careful what you ask for...

 

[Imissmypilot]

Bad blood?

Hate to disagree, but if you had voted it in, you'd be in the same shape as FLOPS. First time contracts take years (three or more on the average) and lots of turmoil before they are put into play. None of those jobs would have been saved, if anything, it could have been even worse due to the normal bad blood of union labor relations. Even when it goes "good" lots of people suffer.

Be careful what you ask for...

B19

First, why is there always an assumption of bad blood with creation of a union? Second, I think a lot of good people are already getting hurt. Just ask the 85 guys that are gone. Third, if you think management is going to stop cutting more from the pilots you are mistaken. When the flight hours do come back we will be back to 14+ duty days and I don't think 7/3 schedules will be out of the realm of possibility.

Since you seem to think a union is a bad thing, you tell me how we could have more job security?

 

[bunman45]

I don't think we need to worry about a union at Flex. There just isn't enough backbone with this group. Very weak indeed.

 

[ExJmbDrv]

Here we go again. Another almost useful thread hijacked.

 

[doh]

B19, you are a poison.