FLASH, This just in,...NWA and DAL pilots

[NuGuy]

Their facts are correct, just dated.

Heyas FDJ,

I'm not arguing that the info is BS or dated, I'm just saying that it's NOT like the NYT to pull up a news wire article from 3 weeks ago and post it as today's news, especially considering that they've run stories under their own by-line since the covering how things fell apart.

Mistake? maybe...

BS, probably...someone could have just changed the date and slapped NYT on it. The fact that it didn't show up in a NYT search tends to back this up.

Nu

 

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Or the airplane orders are the "go it alone plan."

 

[IXLR8]

Wow, $1.7B more, what multiple is that of NWA's revenue. Ouch.

How many DC-9s are you parking this year, how many 747s? Do you have any scheduled deliveries this year? No. Ouch.

Why does your MEC still want this deal?

Oh, there it is..broken record again...blah blah blah....

 

[IXLR8]

So it's all bogus and the NWA guys are NOT calling the Delta guys...wow...what a shock.

 

[Superpilot92]

You are very wise young grasshoppa.

You sure you are a pilot?

Nah, i am just a pilot who doesnt buy into all the BS. If the shareholders what it, and mgmt wants it they are going to try and no matter how much the DAL guys want to say it, mgmt is not putting their pilots wishes in front of everything else. Its going to keep getting interesting and in the meantime i am going to grab a beer and get some popcorn :beer:

 

[IXLR8]

I'll take a Sam Adams thanks!...scratch the popcorn...gotta watch the weight...I want to make sure I fit in that shiny new 787 someday, if it ever gets here...if it's really on order, if it ever flies, blah blah blah....

 

[General Lee]

The only pool you should be concerned about is the hiring kind you'll be trying to get into after your next trip through CH11. Unless we merge and our financials save you down the road. In which case you really need to get up to speed on your terminology. I'm "senior bluebook" ....as in "My Captain is a senior bluebook guy from NWA".

Hey look everyone, it is NORTHWEST to the rescue!!! They will come in with their stellar financials and rescue anyone who MAY have some trouble down the road(even though Air France would EASILY do the same for us in a heartbeat). How does NWA do it? They took most of it from the NWA pilots during their BK. Yes, they kept their pensions, but lost everything else. But hey, if you need a loan, go to them first!


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[FDJ2]

I'm
BS, probably...someone could have just changed the date and slapped NYT on it. The fact that it didn't show up in a NYT search tends to back this up.

Nu

Well, my take is that "Home and Away" ran a 3 week old Reuters article that just so happened to have a NYT credit on it.

Sometimes it's a slow news day at "Home and Away".

It sure kept this forum popping though.

 

[General Lee]

I'll take a Sam Adams thanks!...scratch the popcorn...gotta watch the weight...I want to make sure I fit in that shiny new 787 someday, if it ever gets here...if it's really on order, if it ever flies, blah blah blah....

I can't wait to see a NWA 787. Man alive, it will be su-wheat! And, maybe on the day it rolls out it will be parked next to one of our new Delta Space Shuttles. Wow, that would be fantastic.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Nah, i am just a pilot who doesnt buy into all the BS. If the shareholders what it, and mgmt wants it they are going to try and no matter how much the DAL guys want to say it, mgmt is not putting their pilots wishes in front of everything else. Its going to keep getting interesting and in the meantime i am going to grab a beer and get some popcorn :beer:

While you're at it, PLEASE, PLEASE, take a look at the index of a high and low chart. Learn how to read those again. Also, review SID/STARs. Do you guys on the DC9 have to file your own flight plans too? I hope not.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[FDJ2]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Superpilot92
The real kicker would be if these announcements and aircraft are actually being planned already for the combined carrier. think about it

You are very wise young grasshoppa.

You sure you are a pilot?

Just like the 787s?

These orders have been on the books for some time now.

 

[DTW320]

Ouch, that is an old fleet. 17.5 years old. Look at the bright side, once all your DC-9s are gone your average fleet age will be just north of 11.1.

Do you have any replacement aircraft on order for those aging DC-9s? Why replace immediately. They are paid for and make money.

What's the average age of your 747-200s. 25? Yes! All 13 of them.

What's the average age of your 747-400s. 15? Nope...14....as in younger than your
767-300's(avg age= 16.9) 757-200's(avg age=16.3) and your entire MD88 fleet (avg age=17.5)

Good thing you got the last of your A330s in there to drive your average down. Yeah, right along with our A319's/320's and 757-300's, all of which are younger than your MD88's. Our 757-200's are exactly the same average age as yours....but you have more of them which hurts your average. Yes our A330's(largest fleet in the world) are less than half as old as your 767-400's and 777's.We'll be taking delivery of 22 new aircraft through 2009, that should help us out.

SeeYa!

 

[DTW320]

You really need to get more creative....I guess you fail to recognize your chp 11 trip, which resulted in much poorer pay and work rules! Reading comprehension. Ya see, I talked about the future. Not the past. Get it?
I guess to expect more from some fng greenbook lacky is too much!


Or we buy you, and rescue you from another trip into bankruptcy!Ummmm. let's just say that the financials(those things you like to ignore) suggest otherwise. I guess they didn't teach you about those at Vo-Tech.


This from the punk who has the reading comprehension?:laugh: Sparky, you are really funny!:laugh:


Sure you are greenbook!
Come on junior greenbook......Gear up now!

737

See Ya Punkylouver!!

 

[DTW320]

Hey look everyone, it is NORTHWEST to the rescue!!! They will come in with their stellar financials and rescue anyone who MAY have some trouble down the road(even though Air France would EASILY do the same for us in a heartbeat). How does NWA do it? They took most of it from the NWA pilots during their BK. Yes, they kept their pensions, but lost everything else. But hey, if you need a loan, go to them first!


Bye Bye--General Lee

Just so I'm clear: Your and DAL's answer to their lousy numbers(margins/cash on hand as a multiple of monthly expense/and massive debt) and forecast massive losses at current oil prices (4 times NWA forecast losses)is to ask the Frogs for money?

Wow. Thats a grand plan ya got there BobbyLee!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[General Lee]

Just so I'm clear: Your and DAL's answer to their lousy numbers(margins/cash on hand as a multiple of monthly expense/and massive debt) and forecast massive losses at current oil prices (4 times NWA forecast losses)is to ask the Frogs for money?

Wow. Thats a grand plan ya got there BobbyLee!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

And for some reason your MEC keeps coming back for more. Why is that minibus man? With all of this doom and gloom you say we WILL have (none of our management people seemed as stressed out about it as you are), why oh why do your guys want to call us back? Go away and stay in your ice caves you HOSERS.

And, those frogs also own KLM, your key to Europe (since you don't have anything else except DUS and a few major cities there). Be nice. And yes, they will help us if we somehow need it. Enjoy those great financials---instead of pilot pay. If you personally need a loan, call me--25% interest compounded daily, but that is because you are my hoser buddy from the great white north.(otherwise--it is 30%)

And, I can't believe you are trying to compare fleet ages. Wow. Most of your domestic fleet is older than most of our employees (except the stews).


Bye Bye--General Lee