First nail in ASA's coffin....

[FmrFreightDog]

[FONT=Verdana,Arial]AP Interview: Delta CEO says if quality suffers, feeder carriers could change[/FONT]

ATLANTA The chief executive officer said today that Delta Air Lines could make changes to the lineup of regional carriers that handle connecting flights in the interest of quality.
Delta already has indicated it might sell feeder carrier Comair after it exits bankruptcy.Chief Executive Gerald Grinstein told The Associated Press in an interview -- quote -- "If we're not getting the the right service, we'll have the substitutions."Comair is a subsidiary of Delta. Delta sold Atlantic Southeast Airlines to SkyWest for 425 (m) million dollars in 2005 but still uses it for connecting service. Both airlines were ranked near the bottom of a recent survey on lost baggage and flight delays.Grinstein did NOT say any changes were imminent, and he noted that Delta's connection carriers are valued partners and Delta will work with them to try to correct issues.But he also said the customer service by Delta's feeder carriers reflects on Delta's brand image.Grinstein says his own baggage has been lost on flights on Delta and other airlines he has used, though he said he always got the baggage back. He didn't say what carriers besides Delta misplaced some of his baggage.


Nice job, fearless leaders!

 

[John Pennekamp]

The first nail? More like the 10th.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

This is why DL is taking over the ramp/gate operations is ATL. IMHO, DL should have done this a long time ago.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

This is probably more PR stuff than anything. I don't see big changes happening when ALL the regional carriers that are based at busy airports have the worst performance of the bunch. They should just replace all ASA's 50 seaters with 70 seaters or turboprops, at least on the short and really long flights (Where we are typically weight limited).

 

[Erlanger]

The day ASA was sold, the nails were going in.

 

[JettBoii]

Delta will eventually phase out all of it's regional jet DCI carriers. A nicer more passenger/customer friendly turboprop will take over the short routes again hence a regional airline service. Delta will then once again resume a pure mainline service to it's larger destinations. Regionals will serve the region and legacy and majors will do the longe haul travel; everybody else will have to take the bus. The next economic catastrophe will occur and the whole cycle will start over again.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

This would be a great premonition, however as long as the LCCs are around so will the RJ. The mainline driver pay scale will guarantee that. ASA will be around for a long time, the name may go away once the carriers are merged but the op certificate will survive.

Back to the original question, any info on the RFP?

 

[wmuflyguy]

Except shifting flying won't work. Delta runs the DCI ramp in JFK, you could have any airline you want fly up there and they would be near the bottom of operating stats, because of the Delta ground support. Delta doesn't give a crap about DCI up there and it shows with the mess they concocted. All of Comair's major service out side of CVG is handled by Delta(BOS, GSO, JFK, ORD).

 

[wickedpilot]

The first nail? More like the 10th.

I second that, ASA has been rotting away for about 2 years now.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

The first nail? More like the 10th.

I was thinking more like a railroad spike.

 

[Tomct]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:I'll bring the marshmallows. This could possibly FORCE Delta into making our idiotic mgmnt group get this contract DONE!:angryfire

 

[John Pennekamp]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:I'll bring the marshmallows. This could possibly FORCE Delta into making our idiotic mgmnt group get this contract DONE!:angryfire

Contract? We're talking about ASA getting FIRED by Delta. You know, fired? Out of business? We all lose our jobs? Hello...?

 

[av8er2]

Delta taking over the ramp means it is easier to use any carrier. When you look around the ATL airport today you see a lot of other regional carriers other than ASA. Delta is slowly spreading the flying so ASA has less impact.

Wake up! I have only seen ASA lose ground. Nothing has gone in favor of the pilots for a long time. Because of this I don't see how others can be so confident and say that ASA will always be around.

 

[Tomct]

Contract? We're talking about ASA getting FIRED by Delta. You know, fired? Out of business? We all lose our jobs? Hello...?

NEVER HAPPEN!

 

[atlcrjdriver]

Delta taking over the ramp means it is easier to use any carrier. When you look around the ATL airport today you see a lot of other regional carriers other than ASA. Delta is slowly spreading the flying so ASA has less impact.

DL taking over the ramp is what every other major carrier has done at its primary hubs. This gives the mainline carrier the control it needs to maintain overall operation and most of all cost as this is a flow through expense. The flying out of ATL will always be spread out to prevent a potential major svc disruption ala Comair.

JA is and will always be about pure business. He will not allow his the DL contract to fail. IF that means merging SKW/ASA and dropping the ASA NAME then so be it. The sky isn't falling at ASA as I remain cautiously optimistic that brighter days are ahead.

Fly Safe...

 

[VeeOne]

NEVER HAPPEN!

Kinda like United and AWAC/ ACA.............

What's to prevent this from happening.......a pilot shortage???? C'mon- everybody dumped on the street from ASA would be looking for a flying job. Yea, we'd lose a few pilots to other professions, but I think most would return to fill the ATL void with another carrier (SkyWest, CHQ, SHUTTLE, Mesa)

 

[~~~^~~~]

Vee One. You are right. It amazes me that SkyWest is letting this place fall apart like this. When senior members of ASA's management walk into the Pilot Lounge and make comments like "anyone here who does not have an interview date at another airline has something wrong with them" things are clearly in free fall. I'm still not believing what I heard with my own two ears.

Then there is the Mary Jane shopping cart for everyone to drop their publications in when heading out the door.

Why? Why, when ASA is deferring aircraft due to lack of crews is the Company chasing away its pilots? Obviously the most marketable pilots are leaving. Has ASA got to have a few Pinnacle class "oopsies" before anyone cares.

Are we seeing revenge for the way we treated Jerry Atkin? Can anyone put a logical explanation with the objective facts? I'm in a quasi state of self denial, just so our crew can stay focused on getting the mission accomplished safely and on time.

What gives?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

It is mind-bending. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.

 

[flyinhigh6165]

I keep hearing about Jerry's visit to the pilot lounge....what happened and how was he treated?

 

[jegermeister]

NEVER HAPPEN!

Keep living in your bubble. And by the way, we're winning the war in Iraq. Right.