Final Agreement reached

[Lear70]

As long as someone can stand up and tell JC to "take his point of order and shove it up his a$$" again, it'll be worth the time involved.

On a side note, don't forget JT will be continuing to pass out the staple removers that have been found hanging from ISIS displays in aircraft around the system...

Hey, if you can't laugh, you guys need to lighten up.

Two documents down, the long ones still to go.

 

[Elwood Blues]

VOTE NO, You Can Do Better! Everyone knows it. Why else would SWAPA vote it in so quickly. They are taking the money ( your seniority ) and running. Send it back.

 

[waveflyer]

Dicko some of the stuff you write is pretty witty.

Yeah, dude thinks I'd be bent if the planets aligned and we flew together. Sounds like it'd be a pretty fuc<ing fun trip--

 

[On Your Six]

They already know everything. A bunch of armchair CEOs and pilot lawyers who think they will get relative seniority in Arbitation. Haha. It so *************************ing funny to read their arguments. Delusional is the only think that comes to my mind.

The Colgan guys thought that, and they were right! Same with most of the recent awards, the arbitrators gave companies with like sized aircraft pretty close to relative, plus a few here and there. Arbitration is actually an alternative that may give a better award than this current offer. Could it get any worse? Recent awards have included fences or seat locks to ensure people stay in their seats for a certain amount of time. It appears GK really has invested a lot of time and money into this aquisition/merger, and Wall Street and the stockholders seem to like it so far. Unlikely he would just walk away. If you don't like it overall, vote your concious and vote NO.


OYS

 

[SWA/FO]

VOTE NO, You Can Do Better! Everyone knows it. Why else would SWAPA vote it in so quickly. They are taking the money ( your seniority ) and running. Send it back.

Send it back where? Who is getting the money, again please tell me?

 

[On Your Six]

Send it back where? Who is getting the money, again please tell me?

By stapling the bottom 600 AT FOs, I would say the junior SWA FOs? How about allowing other SWA FOs the ability to upgrade before the more senior AT FOs? Who allowed this stuff to happen? The AT MC actually agreed to this stuff?


OYS

 

[SWA/FO]

By stapling the bottom 600 AT FOs, I would say the junior SWA FOs? How about allowing other SWA FOs the ability to upgrade before the more senior AT FOs? Who allowed this stuff to happen? The AT MC actually agreed to this stuff?

Yes...

 

[Cometman]

By stapling the bottom 600 AT FOs, I would say the junior SWA FOs? How about allowing other SWA FOs the ability to upgrade before the more senior AT FOs? Who allowed this stuff to happen? The AT MC actually agreed to this stuff?


OYS[/QUOTE

Since the Captains are keeping their seat and some are junior to SWA Co-Pilots then the Airtran Co-Pilots pay the price by being stapled at the bottom. Somebody has to pay the price. They are still way ahead in this deal.

I guess they will see if the Captains think this is fair. I bet they throw the Co-Pilots out in the street. Do you really think they care about them? They care about themselves. That is life.

 

[Bake]

I'm voting NO also, but from the SWAPA side of the fence. So, I'm with you fellas. vote it down, let's go to arby and then keep on fighting. I'm serious.

 

[-9Capt]

No f-ing way! Not even close.

 

[dh82dvr]

Hey Juan,

What kind of payrate should we negotiate for the 717?

I would say 737 rate + 10%. It is a more technologically advance machine after all!!

 

[redflyer65]

If the arbitor hands down a 5-10yr fence on the 717, almost no SW guys will be affected by that.

 

[birdman1]

No vote from me. The seniority list is horrible, people do not need to know anymore.

In two years, let us know how the unemployment line looks. My advices to the trannies, don’t trust unions like ALPA, and do not bite the hand that feeds you. This is the opportunity of a life time that's worth millions, and you are about to throw it all away over seniority. Also, seniority is not for life...seniority is only good until your company goes away, such as bankruptcy, or sold off.

 

[On Your Six]

In two years, let us know how the unemployment line looks. My advices to the trannies, don’t trust unions like ALPA, and do not bite the hand that feeds you. This is the opportunity of a life time that's worth millions, and you are about to throw it all away over seniority. Also, seniority is not for life...seniority is only good until your company goes away, such as bankruptcy, or sold off.

Hilarity ensues, again! Threats from scared SWA FOs. So, when will SWA go away, or be sold off? There is a Process Agreement which includes arbitration as a possibility. Vote your conscious, it's up to you!


OYS

 

[dh82dvr]

In two years, let us know how the unemployment line looks. My advices to the trannies, don’t trust unions like ALPA, and do not bite the hand that feeds you. This is the opportunity of a life time that's worth millions, and you are about to throw it all away over seniority. Also, seniority is not for life...seniority is only good until your company goes away, such as bankruptcy, or sold off.

How much seniority would you give up for the same pay raise?

 

[frqntflyr]

I'd give up all my seniority for an upgrade right now.... where do I sign up?

 

[LearLove]

In two years, let us know how the unemployment line looks. My advices to the trannies, don’t trust unions like ALPA, and do not bite the hand that feeds you. This is the opportunity of a life time that's worth millions, and you are about to throw it all away over seniority. Also, seniority is not for life...seniority is only good until your company goes away, such as bankruptcy, or sold off.

"PSSSST...

hey you, ATL based pilot, over here in this dark alley....

I got some good stuff, you know you want to try it...

All the cool kids at SWA say it's the best...

Come on now, you want to be like the cool kids right? Just try it, a little hit, it won't hurt...."

 

[Ty Webb]

In two years, let us know how the unemployment line looks. My advices to the trannies, don’t trust unions like ALPA, and do not bite the hand that feeds you. This is the opportunity of a life time that's worth millions, and you are about to throw it all away over seniority. Also, seniority is not for life...seniority is only good until your company goes away, such as bankruptcy, or sold off.

Wow . . . . . I'll bet similar things were said in Miami in '89.

 

[Tripower455]

Wow . . . . . I'll bet similar things were said in Miami in '89.

Ironically, by some of the same folks that are being acquired by SW now! And complaining about it!

 

[Sacha]

They have had some practice. The Eastern scabs used to be pretty cocky out on the line until the day Lorenzo was able to abrogate the ALPA contract. 40% pay cut overnight. Thanks for scabbing! Now get to work! Boy, talk about some long faces. I was on a hotel van with an Eastern scab crew in West Palm. Our crew was laughing, happy and having a good time and the scab crew looked like they were going to start crying. Oh well. Life is full of choices.