FFDO criticizes TSA gets visited at home by six LEOs

[Deli Guy]

Thanks Rush, I'm sure when the Republicans were in power the TSA was doing a fantastic job. You are trying to politicize this debate in order to side step the issues. The guy signed numerous papers stating he wouldn't divulge SIDA information, and then posted it on YouTube. I could care less if you and the FI Peanut Gallery think the bad guys already have all the information. He did something wrong, got busted and will now have to deal with the consequences. Again, end of story.

No, The TSA was bad under Bush and Tom Ridge, but it is outrageous under Obama and Napalatino! Thanks for calling me Rush by the way, can you claim the same thanks for being likened to Janet? Again, I can't even remember signing anything before I got my airline badge nor did I sign anything when I renewed my badge. I am pretty sure SIDA is airport specific. Did he have one? I do not have one with my current employer. Even if he had a SIDA and he signed it, does his video meet those charges or is this fear mongering and intimidation by Janet? You are just way too gleeful at calling this pilot names before any facts are out, and with the facts at hand, you are too gleeful at not backing pilots on a pilot issue.
"End of story"? What is that? Your grand declaration? Sounds like Janet's thinking. "Obey my orders. End of story" I can see how it is that you grovel at her feet.

 

[skidbuggy]

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[Deli Guy]

Are you for real? Sure thing, next time my badge is up for renewal I will use my cell camera to take a picture of the SSI statement. Unlike you and the offending pilot, I can understand the consequences of violating agreements.

Are you running and hiding AGAIN? Its a PUBLIC DOCUMENT! Do you think its illegal to post a public document? You assume the stance that there is a document. What is its wording? You throw it out there as a given, then you can not produce it. You assume this guy stepped over the line. Was he arrested? No, his federal permit was pulled and is under investigation. The feds called the state and leaned on them to pull his state certificate, but he is not arrested and is still flying! Yet you are so ready to be praised by your BP boycotting brothers, sisters and transexuals that you throw this guy under the bus out of hand. That is a real accomplishment "Kharma Police". What don't you understand about Kharma?

 

[Kharma Police]

No, The TSA was bad under Bush and Tom Ridge, but it is outrageous under Obama and Napalatino! Thanks for calling me Rush by the way, can you claim the same thanks for being likened to Janet? Again, I can't even remember signing anything before I got my airline badge nor did I sign anything when I renewed my badge. I am pretty sure SIDA is airport specific. Did he have one? I do not have one with my current employer. Even if he had a SIDA and he signed it, does his video meet those charges or is this fear mongering and intimidation by Janet? You are just way too gleeful at calling this pilot names before any facts are out, and with the facts at hand, you are too gleeful at not backing pilots on a pilot issue.
"End of story"? What is that? Your grand declaration? Sounds like Janet's thinking. "Obey my orders. End of story" I can see how it is that you grovel at her feet.

Sorry guy, I'm going by the reported facts not emotions like you. You can attempt to put your right wing political perceptions on the issue if you want but you won't be able to disprove the facts.

If you feel so strongly on this issue why don't you post your own video on YouTube like this guy and see what happens.

 

[Kharma Police]

Are you running and hiding AGAIN? Its a PUBLIC DOCUMENT! Do you think its illegal to post a public document? You assume the stance that there is a document. What is its wording? You throw it out there as a given, then you can not produce it. You assume this guy stepped over the line. Was he arrested? No, his federal permit was pulled and is under investigation. The feds called the state and leaned on them to pull his state certificate, but he is not arrested and is still flying! Yet you are so ready to be praised by your BP boycotting brothers, sisters and transexuals that you throw this guy under the bus out of hand. That is a real accomplishment "Kharma Police". What don't you understand about Kharma?

Have a Merry Christmas guy, in this season of good cheer I'm not in the mood to argue with the mentally challenged.

 

[Deli Guy]

Perfect- now it's a dem/rep left v right thing? I don't know if you remember who created the TSA and all the ridiculous stories before the 'end of an error'- but most of do. Beaurocratic bullsh:t is bipartisan.

The pilot makes a very good point- too many fiefdoms- airport employees can swipe cards and bypass security quickly bc they've gone through the individualized process at their airport to get that access- no airport is willing to give up their individualized control- and noone has access to all airports like we are asking- even then- we wouldn't be able to bypass in other countries-

I understand this guy- bc we've been patient enough- their needs to be some sort of bypass for us as "trusted employees"-ie common sense(!)- we don't need a weapon, we're flying the plane- but you can't really have pilots "testing" the system w/o repercussion-

Seems like he's willing to take one for the team- whoever knows who he is, I hope he's a good dude and they've set up a lawyer fund

Well said

 

[Deli Guy]

That is what the FI peanut gallery is best at - politicizing everything if you disagree with them. Things aren't going well - by gosh - it's the left's fault!

Yeah, nothing was ever Bush's fault! Thanks for the intelligent post.

 

[Deli Guy]

That sucks dude about the burglary and your treatment. But did you ever think to post your displeasure on the internet? I'm thinking, no.

WHY do you think he could not post his displeasure over this on the internet? He JUST DID you imbecile! I am thinking "YES" read his post. He just disclosed it on the internet. Will you please just go back to your VW bus and smoke some more doobage?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

How is this guy different ffrom wikileaks?

 

[Max Powers]

Weigh in on that Karma Whatever Your Face.

You just got owned by Karma, after I read his rebuttal.

 

[Deli Guy]

You just got owned by Karma, after I read his rebuttal.

How so?

 

[Deli Guy]

How is this guy different ffrom wikileaks?

Are you referencing Julian Assange or Bradley Manning?

 

[kf4amu]

How is this guy different ffrom wikileaks?

Some people have made a cogent argument that the secret information leaked by wikileaks puts us citizens and allies in danger. Nobody can make a cogent argument that A. Any of this info he posted was secret in the first place and B. That anybody is in danger as a result of people knowing this.

Anybody that tries halfheartedly can figure out that ground crew bypasses security, and there is a crash axe in the cockpit...etc

 

[BornAgainPagan]

How ya like that hope and change now!!!

Could you be any more irrelevant?

 

[FR8mastr]

Really, maybe in Kalifornia? Most of the rest of the nation doesn't seem to think so. Think "shall issue" as opposed to "may issue".

I agree, the bill of rights is not just a good idea, it is the law.

The statement you were responding to show just how well the brainwashing works.

 

[jj21211]

I totally support this pilot. Although I think he knew he was throwing a grenade posting it, it may actually start a conversation on this security farce for ground crews, cleaners, etc. I hope so. (I'll look for him on Dancing with the Stars in '11!) I retired from the airline early, and GA has been great, but TSA IS dreaming of scanning me and my pax before getting on my GIV to TEB! Yep, they're coming after us next.

 

[Flyer1015]

What would happen to the Sheriff if this guy turned out to be a nut job like Timmy McVeigh and they didn't pull his permit when they had the opportunity to do so?

Useless. Just because you take the CCW permit doesn't mean you'd stop someone from going loco. All it means is they can no longer carry a weapon concealed. But if someone is hellbent on breaking the law and commiting a crime, they will do so regardless of CCW or not. You have to admit, there was absolutely no reason to take away his CCW permit. Most statse have a list of things your permit can be revoked for. Posting a youtube video of airport security is NOT one of those things. The TSA/FFDO officials over-reacted by taking away his FFDO gun and status. But the California sheriff's office went waaaay beyond to take away his CCW. Again, it's California. It was nothing more than 'teaching him a lesson.' "That'll show him!" is the reaction our government officials have. Instead of getting the head TSA director on CNN to explain these security lapses, they go and punish him directly.

 

[Deli Guy]

Useless. Just because you take the CCW permit doesn't mean you'd stop someone from going loco. All it means is they can no longer carry a weapon concealed. But if someone is hellbent on breaking the law and commiting a crime, they will do so regardless of CCW or not. You have to admit, there was absolutely no reason to take away his CCW permit. Most statse have a list of things your permit can be revoked for. Posting a youtube video of airport security is NOT one of those things. The TSA/FFDO officials over-reacted by taking away his FFDO gun and status. But the California sheriff's office went waaaay beyond to take away his CCW. Again, it's California. It was nothing more than 'teaching him a lesson.' "That'll show him!" is the reaction our government officials have. Instead of getting the head TSA director on CNN to explain these security lapses, they go and punish him directly.

After our debate from some years past, I agree with you! Merry Christmas.

 

[batsky2000]

This guy is a moron. He posts a video in a lapse of security of how workers can access the ramp by just swiping their ID cards. Well if people saw a video of how FFDO's can bypass security and not have to put their bags through the x-ray machine or go through the metal detectors just because they carry a gun and took a FFDO class, I think most of the general public would be pissed off just the same, knowing that these guys could carry anything they want in their bags or on them, so what was his point, he is doing exactly what he video taped other airport employees doing, bypassing security, not much difference there, and yes, I don't believe in the FFDO program, it is a crock of you know what, there is no reason to have a loaded gun in the cockpit........

 

[BoilerUP]

Just to get the red herring of comparing this pilot to Julian Assange out of the way...

This pilot did not post sensitive/classified state communications, obtained and provided to him illegally, and subsequently post them on the internet for the world to see.

This pilot did not name names of Iraqi & Afghan informants to the US military that could put them and their families in grave danger.

This pilot did not divulge any SSI about TSA screening practices, at least not that I could tell from the news story.

Finally, this guy didn't "go into hiding" and threaten to release a "bomb" of documents if he or his website was persecuted.

This dude is NOTHING like Assange & wikileaks....