FFDO criticizes TSA gets visited at home by six LEOs

[Kharma Police]

Incredible. I believe you really know there is a huge difference between these two situations, but you have learned the art of claiming ridicolus things with a straight face so when your opponent starts a debate with you, it legitimizes the ridicolus! You hold the argument higher than the truth which means you no longer care about truth, you care about your ideology at all costs--even over your nation and (if you are a pilot) your profession. Why don't you run along and organize a nice rally somewhere for Global Warming or Twitter your Facebook or something.

Dude, do they not teach spelling or reading comprehension at your community college? What part of, "AirTran Captain" in my profile do you not understand? I mean, you are being, "ridicolus"(sic)!!

 

[BoilerUP]

A CCDW permit is not a right, its a privilege.

That said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude the sheriff pulling his CCDW permit was because of TSA/FAM pressure and not any real "risk" to himself or society; God knows if they thought the Youtuber posed an actual security risk they'd have at least temporarily detained him, if not had the FAA get involved with an emergency revocation of his certificates since, you know, he's a pilot AND CAN CRASH THE FARKING AIRPLANE IF HE WANTED TO.

No no, 6 folks to revoke his duty weapon after this is just punishment & intimidation by the Blueshirts for quite publicly pointing out the stupidity & holes in their "security" theater. Its the FAM Service's discretion to remove him as an FFDO...but all this is just nonsense and YET ANOTHER example of the unchecked, overreaching powers of the Department of Homeland Security under both the Bush & Obama administrations...an ever-growing bureaucracy with no purpose in life other than to increase their annual budget every year.

What's even more comical in this whole charade is how, historically and especially in the last three decades, just how often law enforcement has been compromised by terrorists around the world. Despite this, how often do you see TSA staff or LEOs ever go through a checkpoint?

 

[waveflyer]

How ya like that hope and change now!!!

Perfect- now it's a dem/rep left v right thing? I don't know if you remember who created the TSA and all the ridiculous stories before the 'end of an error'- but most of do. Beaurocratic bullsh:t is bipartisan.

The pilot makes a very good point- too many fiefdoms- airport employees can swipe cards and bypass security quickly bc they've gone through the individualized process at their airport to get that access- no airport is willing to give up their individualized control- and noone has access to all airports like we are asking- even then- we wouldn't be able to bypass in other countries-

I understand this guy- bc we've been patient enough- their needs to be some sort of bypass for us as "trusted employees"-ie common sense(!)- we don't need a weapon, we're flying the plane- but you can't really have pilots "testing" the system w/o repercussion-

Seems like he's willing to take one for the team- whoever knows who he is, I hope he's a good dude and they've set up a lawyer fund

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.

 

[Turtle21]

A CCDW permit is not a right, its a privilege.

That said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude the sheriff pulling his CCDW permit was because of TSA/FAM pressure and not any real "risk" to himself or society; God knows if they thought the Youtuber posed an actual security risk they'd have at least temporarily detained him, if not had the FAA get involved with an emergency revocation of his certificates since, you know, he's a pilot AND CAN CRASH THE FARKING AIRPLANE IF HE WANTED TO.

No no, 6 folks to revoke his duty weapon after this is just punishment & intimidation by the Blueshirts for quite publicly pointing out the stupidity & holes in their "security" theater. Its the FAM Service's discretion to remove him as an FFDO...but all this is just nonsense and YET ANOTHER example of the unchecked, overreaching powers of the Department of Homeland Security under both the Bush & Obama administrations...an ever-growing bureaucracy with no purpose in life other than to increase their annual budget every year.

What's even more comical in this whole charade is how, historically and especially in the last three decades, just how often law enforcement has been compromised by terrorists around the world. Despite this, how often do you see TSA staff or LEOs ever go through a checkpoint?

In Germany they wore brown shirts. Now here in the states they are too cheap to buy the brown fabric for their shirts because its more expensive.

 

[Kharma Police]

In Germany they wore brown shirts. Now here in the states they are too cheap to buy the brown fabric for their shirts because its more expensive.

Yes, it is most definitely a police state when you get busted after you sign a statement to get your SIDA badge stating that you will not divulge details of SIDA security and then you post those things on YouTube.

 

[Rick James]

A CCDW permit is not a right, its a privilege.

Really, maybe in Kalifornia? Most of the rest of the nation doesn't seem to think so. Think "shall issue" as opposed to "may issue".

 

[Midnight Flyer]

i just want to see the videos he posted..

 

[Deli Guy]

Way to go off the reservation guy, this isn't a Republican or Democrat issue. This is about some tool pilot thinking that the best way to change things is through YouTube. He did something stupid and wrong and got busted, end of story. If Useful Idiots like you can't see the problem with divulging lapses in security then maybe you should go back to your community college and get a clue.

No, you are defending the insanity of this administration and it comes firmly under Republican or Democrat. He did not do anything stupid. The feds are overreaching once again and you are defending them. That is where the political divide comes in. Yeah, I will go back to Community College. Sorry leftist, I am two degrees above that. How about you? The pilot in question has served his country and put something back into the system. How about you? Oh, yeah, you patriotically pay your taxes and protest BP. How honorable. You are way off base on your leftist defense of how poor the TSA is doing its job.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Good thing he's on the news showing what a joke the TSA is......the nationwide discussion has started. Iron gate on the Front door and a screen door in the back.

Maybe he's violated some vague SSI laws, but the jury of his peers would probably see otherwise. I have had the TSA stare at me for a burglary on my house while on a trip and an issued item was taken. I was guilty until I could prove innocent......

Sorry Kharma....Siding with this guy now. The jackboots could send him to Gitmo based on some of their manipulated legal definitions.

 

[Kharma Police]

No, you are defending the insanity of this administration and it comes firmly under Republican or Democrat. He did not do anything stupid. The feds are overreaching once again and you are defending them. That is where the political divide comes in. Yeah, I will go back to Community College. Sorry leftist, I am two degrees above that. How about you? The pilot in question has served his country and put something back into the system. How about you? Oh, yeah, you patriotically pay your taxes and protest BP. How honorable. You are way off base on your leftist defense of how poor the TSA is doing its job.

Thanks Rush, I'm sure when the Republicans were in power the TSA was doing a fantastic job. You are trying to politicize this debate in order to side step the issues. The guy signed numerous papers stating he wouldn't divulge SIDA information, and then posted it on YouTube. I could care less if you and the FI Peanut Gallery think the bad guys already have all the information. He did something wrong, got busted and will now have to deal with the consequences. Again, end of story.

 

[Kharma Police]

Good thing he's on the news showing what a joke the TSA is......the nationwide discussion has started. Iron gate on the Front door and a screen door in the back.

Maybe he's violated some vague SSI laws, but the jury of his peers would probably see otherwise. I have had the TSA stare at me for a burglary on my house while on a trip and an issued item was taken. I was guilty until I could prove innocent......

Sorry Kharma....Siding with this guy now.

That sucks dude about the burglary and your treatment. But did you ever think to post your displeasure on the internet? I'm thinking, no.

 

[olympus593]

Sending SIX LEO to his house is intimidation. Again, end of story,

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

That sucks dude about the burglary and your treatment. But did you ever think to post your displeasure on the internet? I'm thinking, no.

Well, just like an Airplane accident, let's let the emotion drop and see if this guy tried using proper channels. It wouldn't surprise me if he did with no luck. Then again, if he didn't go up the chain, then he gets what he deserves....removal from the club, but not his carry license, that's reaching.

2 years ago I saw another pilot from another airline go toe to toe at a checkpoint with a suit because 3 TSA people with backpacks just walked through a glass divider and a wave. He pounted it out and the suit wanted nothing to do with it telling him to go to his flight unless he wanted to create an "issue". Meanwhile, a local cop starts to maneuver in with his chest puffed out asking if there is a "problem?" He was smart to just drop it and keep on walking to his gate.

 

[PurpleInMEM]

The ONLY thing government thugs will ever understand is abject violence. We're not at that point yet, but soon. It's coming. A palpable uneasiness between the governors and the governed...

"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."

“Every generation needs a new revolution.”

-- Thomas Jefferson

 

[chignutsak]

Thanks Rush, I'm sure when the Republicans were in power the TSA was doing a fantastic job. You are trying to politicize this debate in order to side step the issues...

That is what the FI peanut gallery is best at - politicizing everything if you disagree with them. Things aren't going well - by gosh - it's the left's fault!

 

[Deli Guy]

Dude, do they not teach spelling or reading comprehension at your community college? What part of, "AirTran Captain" in my profile do you not understand? I mean, you are being, "ridicolus"(sic)!!

HAH! Now you resort to the lamest form of defense on BP.com! The spelling police! I am using google chrome and somehow, "ridicolus" slipped through spell check twice. Who cares about the spelling. I threw down the basics of your deception and you correct my spelling. Here it is again with corrected spelling.
Originally Posted by Deli Guy
Incredible. I believe you really know there is a huge difference between these two situations, but you have learned the art of claiming ridiculous things with a straight face so when your opponent starts a debate with you, it legitimizes the ridiculous! You hold the argument higher than the truth which means you no longer care about truth, you care about your ideology at all costs--even over your nation and (if you are a pilot) your profession. Why don't you run along and organize a nice rally somewhere for Global Warming or Twitter your Facebook or something.
Oh, My you claim to be an Airtran Captain, yet you disregard my profile that claims 12,000 plus hours, retired mil, and civ with an ATP and you start the immaturity by doubting if I am a pilot in your first post to me, but you want to critique my reading skills! Very good and typical of your side. Sounds like it is right out of "Rules for Radicals"! How about responding to your deception? This in no way is in the same venue as your hero Julian Assange.

 

[Deli Guy]

Yes, it is most definitely a police state when you get busted after you sign a statement to get your SIDA badge stating that you will not divulge details of SIDA security and then you post those things on YouTube.

Post a link to that.

 

[Kharma Police]

Post a link to that.

Are you for real? Sure thing, next time my badge is up for renewal I will use my cell camera to take a picture of the SSI statement. Unlike you and the offending pilot, I can understand the consequences of violating agreements.

 

[gearup5]

Dudes a moron....He signed up to be held to a higher standard and blew it. Also don't blame the police for bringing six guys. He obviously had more than one firearm. If he flipped out and only one officer is there we might be reading a different story. "FFDO struggles and kills federal agent". If you want to be a investigative reporter do us all a favor and retire. Then you would be free to pursue your story.

Merry Christmas everyone!