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I heard that they plan to start classes for us Poolies beginning in April. I also heard that there's not necessarily an order to the pool. In other words, just because you interviewed 1st week of January, doesn't mean you'll get a class date before a guy hired in March. Not sure how that will work but I imagine they plan to have MD-11 classes they stack with guys with heavy glass experience.
 
PurpleChimp said:
I also heard that there's not necessarily an order to the pool. In other words, just because you interviewed 1st week of January, doesn't mean you'll get a class date before a guy hired in March.

Anyone else have any info on this?

I guess if April and May are supposed to be big, and there are 150 poolies, we'll all get to class quickly!!!
:beer:
 
XJguy said:
Anyone else have any info on this?

I guess if April and May are supposed to be big, and there are 150 poolies, we'll all get to class quickly!!!
:beer:
150 may have been just for Jan & Feb. They're interviewing 100 a month and historically have hired 70-75%. By that math, there will be 220'ish by the end of Mar and 370'ish by the end of May.
 
cgri591982t44a said:
Friend interviewed on Mon 3/20 and they were told that there are 98 poolies as of right now.
I don't see how that's possible when they're interview 100 a month and I know their hiring rate is not that far off the historic rate. (The rate for my interview group was 100%) But, the bigger question for us poolies is when are they going to start calling us for class dates?
 
I just got back from the interview on 3/21 and was told 150 in the pool, 200 in pool by the end of March. They expect that the pool will be drained possibly in May.
 
flynines said:
I just got back from the interview on 3/21 and was told 150 in the pool, 200 in pool by the end of March. They expect that the pool will be drained possibly in May.
I'm diggin' that, man! On that note, let's have a beverage!
 
Empty a pool 200 deep in May? Can FedEx train even half that many in a month? Even if they do start new hire classes again in May, I think it's gonna take a while to drain this pool when you consider new hires are still coming in the door at the rate of 30-70 a month.

Maybe it's my natural pessimism, or the fact that I've been treading water for 2 months now, but I'll believe it when "it's painted purple and sitting on the ramp!"
 
Does anyone know if there will likely be any sort of order to the emptying of the pool? Will a guy that went in first swim out first?

I have to think they must have some sort of plan for all of us. I can't imagine they're hiring at such a significant rate without the short term need existing.
 
They said that they will call folks to training based on their experience and not when they were interviewed. This is to set up for those going to the MD 11.
 
I still haven't figured out how they are going to do that (newhires to the 11). I've been waiting since the last bid to go to training on the 11 and I'm assuming it's because the schoolhouse/simulators are full. As of today, the 11 training letter shows the last class from the 0503 bid to start training on 7/18, which means from the 1st to last class was 10 months (Oct-July).

If they have another bid, there will be no shortage of 72 fo/so's and 10 so's who move up to the 11, thus creating another long training cycle. So where does the extra training capacity for newhires come in? I guess the real question is whether there is going to be another bid or not and how the vacancies are going to be filled.

Believe me, it would be great to see newhires in the 11, as it creates instant seniority, but at this moment in time, I can't see how it's going to happen.

Disclaimer: The company is much smarter than I am, so I could be completely ignorant on how the process is going to work.

Good luck guys, I'm sure you'll be in class soon.
 
MsFan said:
Empty a pool 200 deep in May? Can FedEx train even half that many in a month? Even if they do start new hire classes again in May, I think it's gonna take a while to drain this pool when you consider new hires are still coming in the door at the rate of 30-70 a month.

Maybe it's my natural pessimism, or the fact that I've been treading water for 2 months now, but I'll believe it when "it's painted purple and sitting on the ramp!"
Here is the latest Gucci Building Rumor (the same guy has told me this info twice in as many weeks so it must be true;)):

1. Classes will start up again in May.
2. Hiring as many as 70 a month, but that is undecided.
3. First few classes going to MD-11 F/O, followed by 727 F/O.
4. Classes will not begin until bid is complete (in order to minimize passover pay impact to company). Ergo, newhires will start arriving again in May.
5. All of this is subject to change at the whim of the Bean Counters.
6. MsFan still owes me many beers, even though he hasn't started class.:beer:

Beertini
 
Some airlines have loop holes in their contracts where they don't have to pay passover pay because they don't even offer those positions in a bid. In effect, it's a free one-time bypass.

I assume that the FedEx contract has closed that loop hole, hence the whole problem with releasing the MOAB until every t has been crossed and i been dotted. Is that accurate?

TSD
 
So now the rumor is no April class? Hope that isn't the case. Heard some interviewees in the past couple of weeks were still told to expect a late April class. Any confirmations to that rumor? Thanks LOA
 
Malter,

Everytime I see your avatar, I want a White Russian. Could it be ummm SATAN??

Welcome to the pool by the way... water's warm...

Keeping fingers crossed for an April class,

TSD
 
twiceskunkeddog said:
Malter,

Everytime I see your avatar, I want a White Russian. Could it be ummm SATAN??

Welcome to the pool by the way... water's warm...

Keeping fingers crossed for an April class,

TSD
When one craves a caucasion beverage, one should partake! Helps to pass the time while floating on the raft......man.

April would be far out but I dove in in Feb so probably end of May or Jun is the earliest I could hope for. Hope nobody pees in the pool.
 
...knee deep as well. How much notice do they normally give neebees before training starts?




...never piss where you eat...or sleep


Cujo
 
twiceskunkeddog said:
Some airlines have loop holes in their contracts where they don't have to pay passover pay because they don't even offer those positions in a bid. In effect, it's a free one-time bypass.

I assume that the FedEx contract has closed that loop hole, hence the whole problem with releasing the MOAB until every t has been crossed and i been dotted. Is that accurate?

TSD


Nevermind, I answered my own question from another source:

24.E.5.d
If throught the application of Section 24.E.5.c (above), a junior pilot is activated into a crew position for which a senior pilot(s) did not have the opportunity to bid, the eligible senior pilot(s) shall be paid passover pay in the same manner described in Section 24.D.2.b.....

Hence the delay....

Hey Malter, I was wondering why the water was sooo warm, but now I think I know...

TSD
 
twiceskunkeddog said:
Nevermind, I answered my own question from another source:

24.E.5.d
If throught the application of Section 24.E.5.c (above), a junior pilot is activated into a crew position for which a senior pilot(s) did not have the opportunity to bid, the eligible senior pilot(s) shall be paid passover pay in the same manner described in Section 24.D.2.b.....

Hence the delay....

That is what I was told is the MOAB delay. The Bean Counters need to figure out all of their Mojo; then the bid will happen; then new hires will be brought in directly to a widebody right seat. They (the company) want to minimize the financial impact of passover pay...so everyone will get a chance to move (by bidding in the MOAB) before noobs from the pool come to join our happy family. All of this will result in May classes for noobs.

I hope this makes sense to all of you because I just confused myself.

BTW my source wasn't on the crew bus, so it has to be good.:D

Beertini

Another BTW, congrats to all for making the swimming pool. Welcome aboard and hope to see you on the property soon!:beer:
 
Hey I just got the call from K.D. for an interview. Assuming all goes well (praying heavily now), how long have most guys been waiting from the interview until they jump in the deep end for extended purple dog-paddling? or not...

Waiting on a call back from ECIC to get prep'd...

P.S. B.D. and Lil' J., keep it quiet at the unit for now.

And btw B.D. congrats on jetBlue
 
It would seem that anywhere from 3-6 weeks. Historically closer to 3 weeks. Best of luck!!

TSD
 
71KILO said:
.....how long have most guys been waiting from the interview until they jump in the deep end for extended purple dog-paddling? or not...
4 of the guys in my group got their pool letter exactly 2 weeks after the interview, the other 2 of us got it at exactly 3 weeks. It's been all over the map in terms of timing. The shortest time I've heard was 2 weeks. The longest about 4 1/2 weeks. That's for both pool letters and rejection letters.
 
Swimmies

As a note of hope (or of despair, depending on how you look at it) I was one of the 60+ poolies in the 14 month club beginning 2002; no doubt you guys will get on the property sooner than we did, but be prepared to float. IMHO, you have every reason to believe you're in, just keep your head above water. I'll pass my floaties on to whomever wants them, they worked well....
 

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