FEDEX MOAB Place your bets

[USNFDX]

My Guess Thursday 2/9

290 Widebody Capts

 

[Los1]

Tuesday2/7
287 W/B Capn's
Los1

 

[SWA/FO]

290 tiny jet captain's also known as "the BOEING"

 

[Huck]

290 tiny jet captain's also known as "the BOEING"

I hope you're right but I've been looking at the last bid. ~70% of the Boeing captains can already hold widebody captain, but have not bid it. More and more WB captains are coming from WB right seats. I think there may be only ~100 or so new Boeing captains in a 300 WB captain bid. I'd like to be wrong....

 

[Wise Guy]

Hey Guys, How long of a period does the MOAB cover? One year, two?

 

[CaptainMark]

they say the training cycle could be 3 years...

 

[Echopapa]

1.....

is this like the price is right?

 

[stonewall]

2.....

 

[gkrangers]

Thats a lot of upgrades...

 

[New FDX Guy]

290 tiny jet captain's also known as "the BOEING"

I harbor no ill will towards SWA and I realize that some FedEx guys have butted into SWA posts in the past...

however, if you choose to butt in and make fun of our 'tiny' boeing, you need to be aware that it has a higher MTOGW and carried more passengers per aircraft in it's day than any Boeing in your fleet.

Every airline has it's tools, and you're SWA's.

Adios!

Oh yeah, Feb 9th, 295 WB Capt. 85 Boeing capt.

 

[Ninerfan]

My Guess

Feb 15th, 300 WB Capts and 100 Boeing Capts....it will take till then for the bean counters to sign off on it.

 

[Flying Illini]

man I missed something...what is "the Boeing?"

 

[fartknocker]

man I missed something...what is "the Boeing?"

"the Boeing".......................727

 

[Falconjet]

Tomorrow. 301 Widebody Captains.

FJ

 

[PurpleTail]

Tuesday the 7th.....282 Captains.

The most junior captain award for the Boeing will only have been on property for ?????

My guess is 3 years 10 months.....April '02

 

[PurpleTail]

Tuesday the 7th.....282 Captains.

The most junior captain award for the Boeing will only have been on property for ?????

My guess is 3 years 10 months.....April '02

That is a pretty fast upgrade. The company is going to have their hands full.

 

[Huck]

His rear won't be in a class seat for another 2 years though....

 

[SWA/FO]

I harbor no ill will towards SWA and I realize that some FedEx guys have butted into SWA posts in the past...

So then I guess you understand why I'm in your thread, plus it was an honest question.

however, if you choose to butt in and make fun of our 'tiny' boeing, you need to be aware that it has a higher MTOGW and carried more passengers per aircraft in it's day than any Boeing in your fleet.

Your 2000 hours of fighter time has brought you to that conclusion? You sure about that? So you fly an old airplane...its ok. I use to fly one of the orginal falcon 20's Fed Ex had...great airplane.

Every airline has it's tools, and you're SWA's.

Yeah, Our mechanics have many tools. I think they own their own with some of the bigger tools being owned by the company.

The most junior captain award for the Boeing will only have been on property for ?????

My guess is 3 years 10 months.....April '02

I find this amazing... I had no idea that the movement was so quick. You guys are seat locked, right?

 

[New FDX Guy]

So then I guess you understand why I'm in your thread, plus it was an honest question.

Yes, that was my peace offering to show that I wasn't just spearing you for no reason.

Your 2000 hours of fighter time has brought you to that conclusion? You sure about that? So you fly an old airplane...its ok. I use to fly one of the orginal falcon 20's Fed Ex had...great airplane.

No, my fighter time has brought me to many conclusions, but it is the facts that brought me to this one. Look it up; the 72 carried more than any 73 other than the -800(both 189).
I've never flown that old airplane, just ridden in it. It's a blast. The MD is a little newer, as is the bus...but I don't define myself by what I fly or flew. In fact, I'm happy to have flown some of the older planes while they were still around. If you get jealous or downtrodden about what other people fly compared to you then it will be a long life.
I do fly the NG on the side, it's a great plane, lots of fun.

Yeah, Our mechanics have many tools. I think they own their own with some of the bigger tools being owned by the company.

No, I was speaking of you.

I find this amazing... I had no idea that the movement was so quick. You guys are seat locked, right?

Yes, let's hope the growth continues. No seat lock yet, but there is talk of it.



One of the things I love about SWA/FO is that he isn't one of those flame-baiters, he truly is just a poor jacka$$ and doesn't realize it. Does anyone really think he works for SWA?

NFG

 

[Boxav8r]

Word in the CDG Crew Lounge...

Last week in the Paris lounge talking to a former mgmt guy with his ear still to the ground. Summation is this:

The MOAB will come out as 1 bid with 400 widebody Capts or 2 bids creating 200 each. Training wants the big bid to control their costs. Legal and Accounting want two smaller bids so as to not lock in costs they believe will change anyway; and they want to avoid as many passover issues as possible.

Last time I checked, the bean counters and a$$#0[35 (legal) don't lose these types of battles. We shall see.

 

[active_herk]

Oh yeah, Feb 9th, 295 WB Capt. 85 Boeing capt.

Although you could be correct, I doubt there well be any Boeing capts on the bid. There would only be some Boeing capts if they are planning some growth in the Boeing fleet. I imagine all the Boeing capts will be from secondary and not primary vacancies.

That being said, do I sound like a tool?

Oh yeah, bid on Thursday this week, 300 W/B capts and 125 W/B F/Os.

 

[Falconjet]

I'm out. Rats.

Guess the coffee is on me.

FJ

 

[Purple Nugget]

Oh, why not...

Thursday, 2/9
Widebody CA = 350
Widebody FO = 200
Narrowbody CA = 90

 

[WorldOnTime]

I'm in too. Friday 2/10.

291 widebody Captains
291 widebody f/o's

 

[Ninerfan]

Secondary Vacancies

Active Herk,

I'm no expert but I think the driver in these bids is WB Capt slots. Then the Boeing slots are created by Boeing Capts moving up to WB slots. I could be wrong though.

 

[AlbieF15]

190 WB Captains, 210 WB FOs, 20 727 Captains, 20 727 FOs...

Son of the mother of all bids... Clean up bid in October....

(hope I'm wrong and its huge....)

 

[New FDX Guy]

Although you could be correct, I doubt there well be any Boeing capts on the bid. There would only be some Boeing capts if they are planning some growth in the Boeing fleet. I imagine all the Boeing capts will be from secondary and not primary vacancies.

That being said, do I sound like a tool?

Oh yeah, bid on Thursday this week, 300 W/B capts and 125 W/B F/Os.

Primary Boeing captains(closer to the 20 that Albie predicted) will be created by guys retiring/going to the backseat. The sum total of P/S vacancies will equal 85. My W/B number was based on Primary only, so I guess I would need to add a few for the retirements. Could I be more confusing...scratch all that, I'm getting impatient to see the real numbers...bring it on already.

I didn't think you sounded like a tool, but if you intended to be one then you owe me 25 bucks for the blue-on-blue.

 

[active_herk]

Actually, I didn't intend to be one... i just didn't know if my post would come across that way! Here's hoping the bid is sizable.

 

[New FDX Guy]

Herk,

I'll drink to that!

 

[Ninerfan]

Sorry

Active Herk,

Sorry, should have read the last line of your original post......that's what I get reading Flightinfo when I haven't slept. Here's to a big damn bid!