Feb. PBS Bid Awards - ASA

[centralpilot]

Not exaggerating. Plus, there is no need to sell the XJT guys on PBS, because they're getting it anyway

Simple math tells me that we do indeed need to sell XJT on PBS if we decide we want to keep it.

 

[DHPFLYN]

Mine is awesome! I have the first 10 days of the month off, and that is with NO vacation. I bid 369 out of 442.

Wow that's great. I do have one week of vacation and I am off from now till Feb 21st. Does PBS do that for you ??? Oh wait you have to work two four day trips so you can get paid your guarntee. Bummer

 

[DHPFLYN]

Not exaggerating. Plus, there is no need to sell the XJT guys on PBS, because they're getting it anyway

Sounds like you might need PBS when you get bumped back down to reserve.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Not exaggerating. Plus, there is no need to sell the XJT guys on PBS, because they're getting it anyway

You were the plug a few months ago and now you're a "middle of the pack" lineholder?... I'm sorry, but that's an exaggeration.

 

[centralpilot]

Wow that's great. I do have one week of vacation and I am off from now till Feb 21st. Does PBS do that for you ??? Oh wait you have to work two four day trips so you can get paid your guarntee. Bummer

Well, in the mock bids I was able to get the first 22 days of a month off with one week of vacation. I would've worked 7 days and been paid 75 hours for the month. The junior pilot in a previous post was able to get 10 days off in a row without the aid of a vacation week, so I could very easily have done something similar at the end of the month preceding my vacation month. That would get me somewhere around 30 days off in a row.

I'd say PBS should be able to produce the stretch of days off you described. I'm not saying it is better than the XJT vacation rules, but similar results do appear to be possible. It certainly beats what ASA had before with inferior line bidding vacation rules. YMMV.

 

[Plainsman]

I gotta say after being somewhat skeptical of this thing.....ALPA hit a homerun with this PBS. Most of the junior people are ecstatic over it. Actually it seems like the junior guys love it more than the senior ones. Funny thing is crj567 didn't bid properly and got screwed while people junior to him got great awards.

crj567, you might want to spend more time learning about PBS bidding than crying about it on here. ROFLMAO!!!!

Kinda like jr. getting baby powder after having chapped arse after two or three days? Feels good at first but it the sting will come back. It aint over yet.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Glad most are happy with these results.

I just don't think it will last as the company has proven time and time again that they will learn how to "enhance" our QOL.

We'll see.

 

[79%N1]

Wow that's great. I do have one week of vacation and I am off from now till Feb 21st. Does PBS do that for you ??? Oh wait you have to work two four day trips so you can get paid your guarntee. Bummer

And how many days do you work, and what do you get paid for that? And please explain how you removed 3 weeks worth of flying on a week of vacation.

 

[Dannone]

I have 21 days off in a row, with one week vacation. Happy so far, but I was happy with the last contract for 6 months til they figured out every loophole and well, we all know where they have been sticking that ever since!!!

 

[enuffalready]

I have 21 days off in a row, with one week vacation. Happy so far, but I was happy with the last contract for 6 months til they figured out every loophole and well, we all know where they have been sticking that ever since!!!

I have to agree with this post. I will admit I have the best schedule I've had in 10 years ..... lots of time off with the exact trips that I picked. as of now I am very pleased with the results. I'm witholding judgement until I see this thing in action for 6 months or a year .
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[spudskier]

8:09am and still nothing in SkedPlus... nothing from the union, nothing from Papagorgio, no ability to trade, swap, drop, etc...

 

[cfi on the fly]

I have vacation for Feb and I have 18 off in a row with another 2 off between trips for a total of 20 off and work 8. However I have a trip that bleeds onto Jan 31, and a trip that bleeds over to March 1,2,and 3.

Question: Do the bleed over trips and their value get taken into account with March Bidding? If the company threshold value is 75 for March, am I getting a credit towards that for my trips that I am scheduled to work March 1,2, and 3rd?

Compared to my vacations that I was getting with line bidding...this works out to the same amount of days off I was previously used to. The difference is that with PBS I was able to get every single weekend off, while under line bidding you had to schedule partial weekends usually to get the max days off.

However, I don't really see this bid cycle or the next 2 or 3 as really representative of what we should expect. Too many people-especially the senior ones who will have the most impact- have yet to learn the system well enough to show what you can truely hold.

 

[FightingIrish]

I ended up with a great schedule. It's the best one I've had in a long time. Sounds like most people are happy. Then there is CRJ567 who will never be happy.

Where did he go? Haven't heard his whining in a while. Maybe he's out getting more tampons and midol.

 

[Noise]

So it seems that all the junior people that were on reserve are happy they are finally getting a line. I hope you are happy.... This PBS is a double edged sword. The company has announced that we are receiving 4 more 700s and yet no vacancy award has come out. The company doesn't need to upgrade because they get a increase in efficiency with PBS. Hope you enjoy your lines as PBS has reduced the number of upgrades that will come.

 

[Freebrd]

Then there is CRJ567 who will never be happy.
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nothing wrong with another and different opinion, usually makes it better in the long run

 

[johnpeace]

So it seems that all the junior people that were on reserve are happy they are finally getting a line. I hope you are happy.... This PBS is a double edged sword. The company has announced that we are receiving 4 more 700s and yet no vacancy award has come out. The company doesn't need to upgrade because they get a increase in efficiency with PBS. Hope you enjoy your lines as PBS has reduced the number of upgrades that will come.

Nevermind that those of us still on reserve will be for a LONG time to come.

 

[COOPERVANE]

I ended up with a great schedule. It's the best one I've had in a long time. Sounds like most people are happy. Then there is CRJ567 who will never be happy.
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He might be ohhhhh what is the phrase..............."cautiously optomistic"

I'm glad everybody is happy and busy counting all their chickens.

He, like others are not quite high-fiving yet. The company has a long history of tweaking EVERY agreement we have EVER had. I think everyone worked REAL HARD to make these pairings look good. Will they put this much effort into the following months?

Just consider, they might tweak PBS to get everybody on board. We'll all be so happy we'll do ANTYTHING to convince EXJET that PBS is awesome. They need us to be happy for the JCBA negotiations/vote. After the vote WHAM! Pappagiorgio gets ahold of it again. If you were MGMT isn't that what YOU would do?

OR it could be the company has had a change of heart and wants us to enjoy an improved QOL after slowly crushing it over the last 4 years.

Given the past performance, which do you see as more likely?

I promise if this system turns out to benefit EVERYBODY after the JCBA is voted in, and for the following several months, I will happily eat my words.

I just don't trust them.

 

[ASACRJFlyer]

Here's the funny thing. The company can continue to staff on a razor's edge for all I care. It's going to be interesting to watch the company go into panic mode when Age 65 runs it's course and the Majors HAVE to start hiring again to keep up with retirements. The regionals won't be able to hire and upgrade fast enough to keep up with the attrition and that's when its really going to get interesting. I just hope I'm lucky enough to get hired at a Major before the meltdown at the regionals.

Of course, the regionals are too busy looking 6 inches in front of their faces to see the bus that's about to run them over.

 

[johnpeace]

The regionals won't be able to hire and upgrade fast enough to keep up with the attrition and that's when its really going to get interesting. I just hope I'm lucky enough to get hired at a Major before the meltdown at the regionals.

Of course, the regionals are too busy looking 6 inches in front of their faces to see the bus that's about to run them over.

I can't wait to have a front row seat for that show...

 

[mxaviator]

Well put COOPERVANE. Those are my thoughts too. I'm kind of pleased with my line, I hope it lasts.