FBO etiquette

[Eagle-ista]

Ultra and Encore gyros will spin up just fine on the taxi out. No need to just sit there and twiddle your thumbs making noise. Must be something else. In fact I don't believe I've actually waited for the gyros to spin up in the Primus 1000 or any of the other EFIS displays. They'll come up in about a minute.

Cool. Wait til you get the first maintenance bill.

 

[NJAPLT]

Ultra and Encore gyros will spin up just fine on the taxi out. No need to just sit there and twiddle your thumbs making noise. Must be something else. In fact I don't believe I've actually waited for the gyros to spin up in the Primus 1000 or any of the other EFIS displays. They'll come up in about a minute.

If a Meggit standby attitude indicator is installed, any movement on any aircraft axis will make it reset and start the 3 minute countdown again. Also, can't do the before taxi avionics self test, the inverter tests, and the GPWS test (if first flight of the day) without the gyros erect and displaying good data. I've never done it myself, but I've heard stories of people accidently flying a whole leg with the Meggit blank showing the 180 sec to go indication.

Finally, just my opinion, but it is poor form to taxi without a good heading indication, as it may be needed to quickly confirm that your heading matches the airport diagram to avoid a runway or taxiway incursion. The Primus display is much easier to reference in a hurry than the magnetic compass, especially just after completing a turn on the ground before the compass stabilizes.

Having the gyros erect before taxi also helps when the gyro never erects due to a failure, you don't have to admit to ground you need to return to the FBO :blush: .

 

[tracearabians]

Cool. Wait til you get the first maintenance bill.

I agree ! That guy obviously hasn't talked to an avionics person . Sure, they will spool up, but it will be costly !!

 

[nerdpilot]

Too bad if I wake you up to turn on the television when you could have fallen asleep in the quiet room instead of the pilots lounge.........lots of t-bags with there bluetooth and cell phones and pagers and blackberries and leatherman and flashlights on their belts...........wannabe Batman. Lots of King Aire and straight wing citation pilots love to sit and sit and sit with engines running right in front of the Fbo doors while they try to figure out where they are and where they are going..............pull to another part of the ramp and do your checks for Gods sake.

 

[FlyingFisherman]

Cool. Wait til you get the first maintenance bill.

It was more of a tongue in cheek reference to (lack of) decent procedures in the 500 series airplanes at my former company. Nobody waited for the gyros to spool up in the 560U/E. Each and every battery start would have us taxiing before the gyros spooled up in both the Primus 1000 and other EFIS display equipped airplanes.

I've since flown with a couple "real" companies that use/adhere to not only procedures but common sense. A breath of fresh air

 

[XSWANN@240]

Tip? For what? Doing their job like they are suposed to do? Ill tip if they do something not expected as normal routine. Drive to hotel, lav, etc. Tipping for things that are normally considered part of their job is just reinforcing normal behaior. If you just start tipping so you arent considered cheap, you might as well also tip the girls at the desk for picking up the phone or submitting your fuel order to the lineman. Its their job to do that. Its why they have a job.

My employer reimburse tips I give to line guys and whom ever. So why be so cheap? Tips are only a small fraction off the operating cost. Also, try not to tip when you frequently use the same facility or if you fly international where its sometimes expected. See what kind of service and treatment you'll receive.

 

[pilotpat]

Also, try not to tip when you frequently use the same facility or if you fly international where its sometimes expected. See what kind of service and treatment you'll receive.

Can someone say MYNN...MMSD...?!!!

I didn't read through the entire thread, but my only annoyance on the ramp is the full power out of the blocks when someone's parked behind you bit.

 

[Americam]

The Cessna 172 with the 50 hour know-it-all private pilot doing their run-up on the blocks while we're boarding 40 feet away...

 

[pilotpat]

The Cessna 172 with the 50 hour know-it-all private pilot doing their run-up on the blocks while we're boarding 40 feet away...

Hahahaa! You mean the guy who starts the thing with full throttle?? I know that guy!:smash:

 

[Limeyflyer]

sorry just woke up from my nap snoring my head off, due to my abnoxious ringer on my loud A$$ cell phone, while my computer was playing movie full volume, now I just have to go use that mens room next to the passed out NJ guy in the crew lounge. I agree with all you guys posts except I do like to tip a lot of the ramp guys, expecially Duane at Jet in TEB.

 

[Limeyflyer]

Oh yeah don't hog the massaging chair in the crew room like this one guy is doing right now in KIAD for the past 2 Hours. His back must be turning into Jello by now.

 

[FreightGuyNTX]

:laugh:

I've seen that guy with the top gun ringtone! Man I nearly pissed my pants laughing about that one.

 

[pilotpat]

The Top Gun ringtone...that's a tad over the top! At least mine plays the Geico Caveman tune from the airport commercial. Those are funny f'ng commercials.

 

[snow-back]

Hey FreightGuy. What's up? I always thought it was cool to plug the Top Gun theme into the intercom of the 340 :erm:.

I've diverted my career path a little. What are you up to?

TR

:laugh:

I've seen that guy with the top gun ringtone! Man I nearly pissed my pants laughing about that one.

 

[CopilotDoug]

and what about the guys that take a crap in the ladies bathroom, clog the toilette, and then break the handle off.

And you've never done that?!? Just because I've made a habit of it (learning to break the handles is the hardest part) doesn't mean you're better than me!

 

[CopilotDoug]

1. P.S, The csr's behind the counter. Leave them alone, because they think all of you are dorks trying to hit on them. You should hear what they say when you walk away.. I know because I'm there in my 'freight uniform' imp: for 5+ hours talking with them.

Do you feel threatened by this? If she's your girlfriend, that's one thing...but if you don't know either of them, who gives a $hit ?

 

[G100driver]

How about the line tech who shows up early to work and sits in the pilots lounge and changes the channel as to watch the F'n Lakers!

I went to the bathroom and this guy changed the channel on me. I figured, ok, I left the TV controller unattended so it was my fault. About 1/2 later he puts on his work shirt and goes out to the ramp and goes to work. I had no idea that this guy worked there ... I just figured that he was an options pilot eating McD's wearing a grubby T-shirt.

I considered saying something to the manager, but figured this is a regular stop and in the end it would not do me any good.

 

[pilotpat]

LOL G100, must be the same guy who sits on the internet during his break when I need to file or check wx!

 

[BuddhaJ]

There should be a man law against watching some crap TV show in a pilot lounge. Monk is not acceptable, Walker Texas Ranger is!.

I was surfing the crew lounge tv when I came across Scarface, edited for tv, I had to watch it and every crew that came into the lounge after that stopped in their tracks and watched it until a commercial break...that should be mandatory under the new man-law.

Also everyone has missed the most annoying FBO habit...that is people who don't wash their hands after they use the restroom and immediately make a bee-line for the otis spunkmeyer cookies and touching every one.

Watch out for this disgusting habit at FSI also...during break time the people who don't wash usually are the ones picking through the whole tray of bagels, donuts, pretzels, etc...I wouldn't eat any unpackaged food at an FBO or FSI

 

[tracearabians]

I was surfing the crew lounge tv when I came across Scarface, edited for tv, I had to watch it and every crew that came into the lounge after that stopped in their tracks and watched it until a commercial break...that should be mandatory under the new man-law.

Also everyone has missed the most annoying FBO habit...that is people who don't wash their hands after they use the restroom and immediately make a bee-line for the otis spunkmeyer cookies and touching every one.

Watch out for this disgusting habit at FSI also...during break time the people who don't wash usually are the ones picking through the whole tray of bagels, donuts, pretzels, etc...I wouldn't eat any unpackaged food at an FBO or FSI

I totally agree with you. This A**h I flew with out of KMEI for 5 years never washed his hands after trips to the restroom. Then he would stand at the popcorn machine and eat directly out of the machine with his hands.

 

[pilotpat]

Then he would stand at the popcorn machine and eat directly out of the machine with his hands.

Now that's class.

 

[tracearabians]

Now that's class.

( Classless ) is more like it ! I have seen him at a salad bar sampling the choices with his hands before ever placing anything on his plate with the serving ware.

 

[DX Rick]

No wonder most of you live miserable lives. You whine and cry over anything. Unless the guy is trying to pinch a loaf in my flight bag, I really don't care what you do. If you do pinch the loaf in my bag, please atleast spray a little Fabreeze.

Female pilots don't even bitch about the crap ya'll do.

 

[pilotpat]

Stone the heretic!!!!!!!!!