FBO etiquette

[ag2pilot]

tathepilot,

How did you get my mother-in-law's picture for your avatar?

 

[nfg2u]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Count Dracula
I fly with a guy who uses a knee board in the airplane and stands at the urinal with his pants down to his knees.

LMFAO

I guess the kneeboard keeps his pants from falling off!!!

 

[tathepilot]

tathepilot,

How did you get my mother-in-law's picture for your avatar?

what can i say

 

[Bjetset2]

After Start

Our checklists arent exactly laid out in such a manner as to get us moving in a hurry. In fact I have watched glaciers pass me as I went through the checklist items. Once we do get moving our taxi checks are very quick, mostly because weve done dang near everything before we started moving, hmm come to think of it this might actually be a very good idea. Something to consider.

I fly some corporate stuff on the side and some of you guys run through everything so fast that you miss half of it in order to get the boss moving 2 seconds after he gets on the plane. The hell with that. Ill go when im good and ready, the line guys can wait. And so can the people in the back.

I fly Corporate and I can assure you no corners are cut and yet our planes move from the blocks efficiently. I understand on the AHRS issue if no GPU but I have seen many of your planes connected to and start with a GPU and then still sit there for five minutes after start. Maybe you should have your standards department come up with some procedures that make sense and have some consideration for the ramp environment.

 

[ag2pilot]

What I hate the most, is when other pilots keep coming into the weather room and then walking right back out to the hall and tell their copilot something about wishing I was off the only computer in the FBO so they could check the weather. Who do they think they are. Maybe they should complain to the manager about not having two computers, so I could check on that big ole pilot watch I'm watching on Ebay while I'm typing this. That might speed things up.
I don't care if they are ready to go and need to look at the line of weather thats forming. They can see it when they get in the air. I've got six more hours to wait, and I've got to do something to kill time.

 

[airspeedsalive]

What I hate the most, is when other pilots keep coming into the weather room and then walking right back out to the hall and tell their copilot something about wishing I was off the only computer in the FBO so they could check the weather. Who do they think they are. Maybe they should complain to the manager about not having two computers, so I could check on that big ole pilot watch I'm watching on Ebay while I'm typing this. That might speed things up.
I don't care if they are ready to go and need to look at the line of weather thats forming. They can see it when they get in the air. I've got six more hours to wait, and I've got to do something to kill time.

I hope you're not serious. Let the guys that have business to do use the one computer. With six more hours to wait time ahead of you, check ebay later.

 

[Box-Hauler]

I hope you're not serious. Let the guys that have business to do use the one computer. With six more hours to wait time ahead of you, check ebay later.

Sarcasm?

Look it up.

 

[dictatortot]

Dont pack a three day supply of Otis Spunkmeyer cookies, and walk out with a smile on your face, like a little kid that just robbed the cookie jar!

I've definitely seen many a Captain "top off" on FBO cookies.

 

[Hawkster54]

and what about the guys that take a crap in the ladies bathroom, clog the toilette, and then break the handle off.

 

[flyboycpa]

How about the guys who start both engines, and just sit there. Are you guys filing a flight plan, getting a standard pilot WX briefing, AND doing the first flight of the day checklist? The fractional guys are the worst in those straight wing Citations. And why do the line guys where I go, always complain about Flight Options Pilot tipping the least and being the rudest? The bad part is that there are so many of these pilots making a bad name for themselves.

Regarding the straight-wing Citations:
you're exactly right! those CE-500 guys are the worst for sitting with both turning while scaring off all the birds/linemen/pilots, etc.. I don't understand, and due to the consistency, it must be something taught. I haven't flown a Citation so I don't know.

Regarding Flight Options Pilots:
I AM a Flight Options pilot and I'm sorry you have a bad taste in your mouth for us. I apologize, on behalf of the good among us, for the jerk(s) you ran into. As far as tipping goes, that's dictated (read that....reimbursed) per Company policy. Don't shoot the messenger.

flyboycpa

 

[NJAPLT]

How about the guys who start both engines, and just sit there. Are you guys filing a flight plan, getting a standard pilot WX briefing, AND doing the first flight of the day checklist? The fractional guys are the worst in those straight wing Citations.

I fly one of those straight wing Citations, being one of those fractional guys your complaning about. The problem is that we have to wait for gyro spinup, several of the self tests we are required to do will not work until the gyros are up and running. Most of the time we get everything else done on our checklist possible and still have to wait for the gyros. (Sometimes even having the gyros prespun with a gpu doesn't help.)

Our first flight day check in the citation V ultra (that is once the engines are running) only consists of a t/r check (at taxi off the ramp) and a GPWS check (will not test right until gyro spinup.)

I agree that they checklists are not exactly set up to get us off of the ramp as soon as possible, but then again we are always ready when we get the short taxi at places like the taxi from Jims Air to the runway in San Diego.

 

[airspeedsalive]

Sarcasm?

Look it up.

Sorry....a little slow on the up-take.

 

[hawkerflyer]

What I hate is the fact that I just spent the last half hour reading this entire thread realizing just how screwed I really am. Oh, and that I don't wear tighty-whiteys.

 

[tracearabians]

How about the guys who start both engines, and just sit there. Are you guys filing a flight plan, getting a standard pilot WX briefing, AND doing the first flight of the day checklist? The fractional guys are the worst in those straight wing Citations. And why do the line guys where I go, always complain about Flight Options Pilot tipping the least and being the rudest? The bad part is that there are so many of these pilots making a bad name for themselves.

Gyro spin up ! DUH

 

[FlyingFisherman]

Ultra and Encore gyros will spin up just fine on the taxi out. No need to just sit there and twiddle your thumbs making noise. Must be something else. In fact I don't believe I've actually waited for the gyros to spin up in the Primus 1000 or any of the other EFIS displays. They'll come up in about a minute.