Fastest Business Airplane

[SCT]

You have a good point G200!!

 

[501261]

me thinks sitting IN BACK with a few hotty topless broads sipping an 18yr old scotch at any flight level beats em all!

Oh yea, that's a good dream. And let me tell ya straight out, in that dream, I'd be a d!ck to fly for.imp:

Just dreaming of saying "Hey GVFlyer and FalcCapt, make sure my jetski gets loaded onto MY G550's baggage compartment, oh and when you get finished loading those 20 cases of $2 buck chuck, go ahead and take a bottle for yourselves ."

Enroute to Cabo "Hey GV, Bambi and Kitty (2 flight attendents for safety of course ) here say it's better to jet ski in Bora Bora, hang a right and if we land any where but Bora Bora, you're fired!"

Oh yea, it can happen.........not.

 

[501261]

Dreaming of owning a G550

I'd throw a fit everytime I got in the G550, just because I could.

"This catering f!cking sucks, I want someone fired over this foul up! I want my brisket SLICED not chopped!"

Next time I get on: "This catering f!cking sucks, I want someone fired! How hard can it be to get this straight, I want my brisket CHOPPED not sliced .

Man this dream just keeps getting better .

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Id have GV flyer working for me and I would sell the GV and buy a Falcon 50.

Then Id make him fly it around the world with a jetski in back, minrest, Garden Inns as prefered Hotels. Perdiem $35/day all meals.

Kinda like my own personal FRACTIONAL PILOT.






PS - j/k GV - no need for the 2 pager about the only aircraft that can fly are made in Savannah and are crewed by all military pilots...

 

[SCT]

"Kinda like my own personal FRACTIONAL PILOT."

Now that's funny! Maybe he can get NJW and the 1108 to represent him....

I would have the FA bring $100.00 bills up to the cockpit with a message to roll the 550 BUT if I spill a drop of my scotch someone is going to get fired!!

 

[G21Agoose]

I made it to FL450 yesterday in about 15 minutes in the G-V with enough fuel to about 5 hours (plus having reserves)...

I have passed Citation X's several times in the lower altitudes in the Falcons (Vmo 370 KIAS)...

We often have the same- X's may have a high TAS but we catch up on the descent with our 350+ KIAS (above 10,000ft, your honor). Speed is relative, though, most pax want comfort ahead of speed; 10 mins difference on a 600nm trip. Who cares????

 

[cezzna]

The speed difference is negligable. I'll be the first to admit I'd rather be flying the G-metal. The biggest gripe I have with the X is the ride in turbulence. Those yaw dampers work hard when it's rough. Feels like being in the front end of a maraca. Sometimes you wonder if it's the air or the yaw dampers beating you up.

 

[Diesel]

fly an older x without the mod'ed controls and thats a ride. Full deflection on final. Like flying a 172 with ice. Figures. Built by cessna.

 

[501261]

Back to the "Dream"

So do you think we can start working on getting a "Stripper Poleimp: " STC on my G550. I mean if Gulfstream doesn't think they can install a couple of "stripper polesimp: " into custom my blue velvet interior:bomb: , I'll just have to start talking to Bombardier .

I'm thinking 3 stripper poles, one up front by the door, one in back, and a "main stage" in the middle. :laugh:

 

[AA717driver]

D@MN! No one's safe around here tonight! You guys are brutal. (G200 being particularly harsh on GVflyer... Not that he doesn't deserve it every so often! )

I'm going back to study for the rest of my recurrent... TC

 

[NJA Capt]

We often have the same- X's may have a high TAS but we catch up on the descent with our 350+ KIAS

Just to play devil's advocate:A majority of our descents/STARS are speed restricted because of the traffic we are following.

...10 mins difference on a 600nm trip. Who cares????

Man, I wish I could get a trip with 3 digit mileage. For 600 miles I hope they wouldn't buy a CX or a GIV/G. Time is money, that is why people buy biz jets in the first place. To many of our owners the extra :30 min to an hour on a coast to coast flight are big deal.

This week I took off 5 min behind a company GIV on the same route (3+ hours). At the end of the first hour we were 25+ miles from of him (and he got a shortcut).

 

[gunfyter]

Hmmm.... Took off HTO to VNY 10 minutes after a G-IV. Was in the crew van on way to hotel when I saw them taxi onto the ramp.

Faster usually just means they can add another leg.

But the really important question is which pays more?

 

[GEXDriver]

This week I took off 5 min behind a company GIV on the same route (3+ hours). At the end of the first hour we were 25+ miles from of him (and he got a shortcut).

The GIV cruises at M 0.80. The GV cruises at M 0.85. Both are still in production. The Citation X is a failed product (primarily due to reliability issues and the small dark cabin) that has gone out of production with no follow-on announced.

 

[GVFlyer]

Man, I wish I could get a trip with 3 digit mileage. For 600 miles I hope they wouldn't buy a CX or a GIV/G. Time is money, that is why people buy biz jets in the first place. To many of our owners the extra :30 min to an hour on a coast to coast flight are big deal.

Maybe going East. Going West is another story.

This is from the current FAI World Record Book for speed over a recognized course between New York and Los Angeles. The Citation has the record for speed in it's class, but not overall - that belongs to the Gulfstream. Just so you don't have to get out your calculator, the GV averaged 535 MPH from New York to Los Angeles in the factory demonstrator; the Citation was over 26 MPH slower.

Teterboro, NJ (USA) - Van Nuys, CA (USA) : 819.39 km/h
Speed over a recognised course
Benjamin M. BUDZOWSKI (USA), Mark O. SCHLEGEL
11/05/1995 Aircraft:
Cessna 750 Citation X
Registration: N752CX
Engines: 2 x Allison GMA 3007C, 6 000 lb each

Teterboro, NJ (USA) - Van Nuys, CA (USA) : 861.98 km/h
Speed over a recognised course
Tom OWENS (USA), Christian M. KENNEDY
03/07/2000 Aircraft:
Gulfstream Aerospace G-V
Registration: N5GA
Engines: 2 X BMW Rolls-Royce BR710, 14.750 lbs each

Keep in mind that this record was achieved in a GV and has stood for six years; the G550 has 6% more equivalent thrust, is aerodynamically cleaner and easily flys 5,000 nm at Mach 0.87.


GV

 

[421Driver]

So do you think we can start working on getting a "Stripper Poleimp: " STC on my G550. I mean if Gulfstream doesn't think they can install a couple of "stripper polesimp: " into custom my blue velvet interior:bomb: , I'll just have to start talking to Bombardier .

I'm thinking 3 stripper poles, one up front by the door, one in back, and a "main stage" in the middle. :laugh:

There's a G that comes into PTK with a pole and shag carpet in the back. I think it's a GIII.

 

[NJA Capt]

11/05/1995 Aircraft:Cessna 750 Citation X

03/07/2000 Aircraft:Gulfstream Aerospace G-V

And, so you don't have to get out the Almanac, the winds in March are about half the winds in Nov. You guys are funny. It drives you crazy that a little tin Cessna product cruises faster than the mighty, super clean, aerodynamically superior-to-every-man-made-object-that-will-ever-be-built Gulfstream.

 

[banned username 2]

And, so you don't have to get out the Almanac, the winds in March are about half the winds in Nov.

I don't know that I would say that... about 3-4 weeks ago is when I saw the highest wind I've ever seen over the US, I had it as my avatar for a while... it was 282° @ 190kts... Last November the winds were quite light, actually...

Running 2 flight plans using monthly average winds along that route show an average headwind component of 63 kts in November vs. 60 kts in March... 3 kts is only 3.45 Mph so the C-X was still 22 Mph slower than the G-V...

 

[want2fly]

Actually this is the fastest business airplane, not the Citation X or the GV.

http://www.avtechgroup.com/

 

[banned username 2]

Actually this is the fastest business airplane, not the Citation X or the GV.

http://www.avtechgroup.com/

Not so much... first off, I don't think they have even raised the gear on it yet (in flight) and secondly what type of "Business Airplane" carries but one passenger?

That is a Sport Plane, not a business plane...

 

[want2fly]

Not so much... first off, I don't think they have even raised the gear on it yet (in flight)

http://www.avtechgroup.com/events.asp?sub=pressreleases