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FAA settles on CO Denver crash victims


Well-known member
Jan 9, 2005
Total Time
A lot of different techniques out there. All good ones. I think the point is , not giving up and letting the airplane fly you. I wouldn't call the conditions ideal but certainly not hazardous for a current qualified ATP. We've all flown in this stuff, it's not difficult, it's everywhere, some times in multiple cities in a day. To get a settlement after you run a plane in a ditch sets a bad precedent. IMO

Well said(!)


"It's a formidable scent"
Jun 7, 2007
Total Time
10k ?
Top of the yolk has a degree of aileron tape scale.

Which is labeled control wheel angle. It's not a degree of aileron deflection.

I declare the point to be Moo :D, as I can't see the tiny little markings during takeoff. My seat is positioned on the floor and fully reclined. I fly fully ghetto.