ExpressJet branded flying

[biggerguy]

Apache, you kill me!!!
Glad to see you've mellowed since your EWR days.
Ken

 

[EWRJ0225]

F- chatuaqua...

wow!!!

 

[ATRCA]

I agree. And throw in the frequent flyer programs that XJT is competing against, I think most people will choose the cheaper, well known airline with a frequent flyer program.

Part of me is just flabergasted that the bosses running XJT actually think this will work.

You fail to mention what the alternative would have been. Give up the airframes? Is that a viable business plan? What would you have done given the circumstances?

 

[Superpilot92]

I heard the load factors have been very light for the new operation. VERY light.

Is there a plan in place to scale it back if it doesn't work? XJT cannot go on for very long flying empty planes.

Also, I would imagine that they are getting stiff competition from about all angles - American Eagle, Horizon, CAL, Southwest.

Good luck to those guys, but it isn't looking good in my opinion. I think Indy Air proved that 50 seat jets cannot make money on there own.

Please Ignore Inspector HardNasty!! He/She Is Just A Lurker, Posts Nothing But FlameBait!! Dont Fall for this ******************************bag!!

 

[Non Union]

My guess on a percentage chance is no different than someone throwing a dart at a wall blind-folded.

Why would someone throw a dart at a wall blindfolded?

 

[Non Union]

Please Ignore Inspector HardNasty!! He/She Is Just A Lurker, Posts Nothing But FlameBait!! Dont Fall for this ******************************bag!!

Stop being such a flaming prissy-pants. It is a fair question/discussion and I am curious. Just because you work there and I don't doesn't mean I can't ask a question without you jumping my sh!t like a little girl.

I hope you guys make it, but I just don't see how the branded flying thing is gonna make any $$ on the west coast. You XJTrs are worse than SW pilots when someone asks a pointed question.

 

[Alchemy]

Why do you care if it works or not? Are you a customer? Do you work for xjet? Work for the competition? Or just trying to get some jollies by fear mongering?

 

[Captain Overs]

I saw a load factor today out of ONT with 38 people. Not too bad.

I don't see how XJT will win on this board. If they don't make it you'll say "See I told you." If they do make it you'll say "CAL funded it."

I still crack up at you guys who make the comparison to Indy Air. Those of you who make that comparison just show your ignorance of how XJT has set up the flying. It's nothing like Indy Air. No hub and spoke, no low cost carrier, not head to head with a major.

Also.... If there isn't much of a price difference why wouldn't someone take a smaller plane that can save them a few hours of travel? For a business man, time is money. He can spend that extra time with a customer and make extra cash.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

Stop being such a flaming prissy-pants. It is a fair question/discussion and I am curious. Just because you work there and I don't doesn't mean I can't ask a question without you jumping my sh!t like a little girl.

Well I've turned a few comments back to you and you've failed to address them. Go figure. Back to your flames, eh?

 

[MEL'ed]

Just curious, when XJT does a charter in a mid sized city, ROC/SYR sized, would they board/deplane at the terminal or an FBO? Is the security the same since you really don't know 50 clients that well compared to chartering a small jet where you get familiar with clients? Thanks.

 

[ERJDRVR]

I still crack up at you guys who make the comparison to Indy Air. Those of you who make that comparison just show your ignorance of how XJT has set up the flying. It's nothing like Indy Air. No hub and spoke, no low cost carrier, not head to head with a major.

Not showing our ignorance, just pointing what everyone else sees that is not drinking the Xjet Kool-aid.

No you are not head to head with a high cost major. Your mngt team chose to go head to head on some SWA markets. That appears to be even worse.

Whoever posted that pax would rather sit in an RJ than a bus or 737, you are crazy. RJ's suck to ride in period.

 

[Mookie]

Horizon has free Micro Brew and northwest wine.

Advantage Horizon...

 

[Master Shake]

Whoever posted that pax would rather sit in an RJ than a bus or 737, you are crazy. RJ's suck to ride in period.

The gospel according to you, huh? Well you are wrong. It is complete ignorance to believe that there is not a percentage of road-warriors who do like the ERJ for reasons previously stated.

 

[Fishpaw]

Originally Posted by MEL'ed

Just curious, when XJT does a charter in a mid sized city, ROC/SYR sized, would they board/deplane at the terminal or an FBO? Is the security the same since you really don't know 50 clients that well compared to chartering a small jet where you get familiar with clients? Thanks.

In my experience we've always boarded at the fbo regardless of the size of the airport. As far as security goes, the FAA considers charter groups well acquainted enough that they don't have to go through the traditional screening process. However, because this is a 121 Supplemental operation we are required to check each passengers id against our passenger manifest. Each passenger name was checked on the FAA's No-Fly list prior to the manifest being printed.

 

[Master Shake]

Horizon has free Micro Brew and northwest wine.

Advantage Horizon...

Dollar beers - keep the whole 12oz.

Every flight is catered with food...really good food...included in the ticket price.

Advantage Horizon is not so clear cut.

 

[lowery21]

A "the sky is falling" post less than a week after we started is a little disingenuous to say the least.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

Whoever posted that pax would rather sit in an RJ than a bus or 737, you are crazy. RJ's suck to ride in period.

So you would prefer a 5 or 6 hour travel time from OMA to LAX on a 737 (with a connection and the chance of a missed connection or other issue) over a 3 hour travel time on an RJ?

-Neal

 

[MarineGrunt]

So you would prefer a 5 or 6 hour travel time from OMA to LAX on a 737 (with a connection and the chance of a missed connection or other issue) over a 3 hour travel time on an RJ?

-Neal

I do MKE-SLC a couple times a month, and if time allows, I prefer stopping in DEN. I can't handle being on back of an RJ for that long. Thats just me though...

Best of luck to the XJET guys/gals...

 

[bulletto]

Good luck to ExpressJet. This point to point stuff is great. The XM radio, extra padding in the seats, dollar beer, and less competition for arm rests is smart... shows improvement over the norm to me.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

I do MKE-SLC a couple times a month, and if time allows, I prefer stopping in DEN. I can't handle being on back of an RJ for that long. Thats just me though...

Best of luck to the XJET guys/gals...

The seat is roughly the same despite the size of the fuselage. And businesspeople typically prefer the shortest travel time since "time is money." But hey, if someone wants to connect in in Dallas for 90 minutes only to have to sit in a middle seat on both segments of that big 737, so be it. I'll take the single seat on the left side of the RJ any day of the week over a middle seat on a 737....that doesn't even factor in the travel time difference or the cheap beer and XM.

-Neal