Express Jet hiring

[sabreliner]

1500 and 500 high??

A couple of people have said that 1500 and 500 is high for mins?? How do you figure? 1500 and 500 was fairly normal only a few years back. If the market for pilots will bear a higher min, then why not require it? Why should they hire with the pre 9/11 mins?

 

[BoilerUP]

<-------------- a 500hr college student who wants an airline job as bad as anybody else but doesn't think 1500/500 is "high".

At Comair, 2500+ is competitive even though mins are 1200/200. TSA is sticking to their guns at 1500/300 from what pilots I know there tell me. Why should XJET, who still has people on furlough(as far as I know) be any different?

"I hope those mins are not correct. I think they're to high. We all know that well trained pilots with much less time can do the job." This is a true statement, the caveat being WELL-TRAINED. There are as many very good, low-time pilots out there as there are crappy, higher-time pilots looking for an airline job, which proves total time doesn't necessarily dictate piloting skills. If in a few years the industry looks like what it was in the late 90s, the airlines will be taking all the 300hr multi-commercial pilots that can be cranked out. Then, ground school will weed out the haves from the have-nots, and thats an expensive way to screen your pilots.

Eagle is hiring with 500/100 if you graduated from an "approved university", whatever that is (I would assume UND, WMU, ERAU, Purdue, etc are all approved). 50% of Eagle pilots still on furlough declined recall...I think that speaks volumes for how people like working for AMR. However, it could be a place to get your foot in the door before the next big upswing.

Just my $.02...Good luck either way you go!

 

[pilotshan]

Maybe they set the mins high so the low time pilots had something to cry about. Seriously though, why would they bother with anyone with less time if they didn't have to? If they want 1500/500, then that's what they get. I'm sure they already have profiles from many well qualified pilots.

Any word on when interviews will start? Competitive times?

As far as Eagle goes, WMU doesn't have an agreement with them unless you interned for American in which case your mins are 500/100.

 

[YaMama]

You know, I think we need a Competitive Regional Applicant's Time Index (CRATI), kinda like the Economist's Big Mac currency index. To have an empirical way of comparing hiring mins from one year to the next. How many hours for the middle-of-the-road pilot (CFI, no turbine time, 4 year degree, no internal rec) to get an interview at a middle-of-the-road regional (TSA maybe?) So right now the Index says 15 and 3 ...

 

[d.fitz]

Just FWIW info

1500 and 500 multi is the scoop straight from the chief pilot too - no exceptions.

Looks like I gotta spend some money on multi time if I want an interview...

Hope everyone gets on somewhere soon!

Also, I understood that they are not accepting apps until december 17th. You may want to apply again if you already have...

 

[flynryan15]

Sticking it out

Sure I guess you can say that I don't have the total time that some of you do, but to say that I haven't paid my dues and stuck it out is an insult. Since I got my Private Pilots License I have had my ankle rebuilt my achielles reattacted and 2 rotator cuff surgeries. Causing me to loose almost 5 years of flying, but you know what as soon as I was able I would get my medical back and return to flying. If I hadn't gone through half of that I would have been hired pre Sept 11th when there weren't any minimums like so many of my friends have done.

There comes a point in your career were you either have it or you don't. Flying around a pattern in a 152 smashing bugs for another 700 hrs is not going to prepare me to fly the regional jet or any turbo prop. Either is shooting approaches in a 172 at 90 kts I mean come on how hard is it to set the power to 1900 rpm and give a little trim down and wait forever to the missed point.

Remember most of the guys that are there already weither it be coex or many other regional were pre Sept 11 hires and they did not have 1500/500 and they have been doing a great job for years. I know this fo a fact because before he passed away my father was a Continental Check Airmen and he would tell me how low the times were that guys were getting hired with. And I think we all remember that the smaller regional airlines were actually canceling flights for pilot shortages.

 

[AAPvtPilot]

Any information on equipment and possible bases for newhires?

Thanks.

[email protected]

 

[flynryan15]

equitment

The only thing the Fly is the Emb 135-145 the bases are Newerk Junior, Cleveland next junior and Houston senior

 

[flynryan15]

You never know it all

First off I don't care were you are in your career or training you will never know all there is to know and you will always be learning and in training.

My point is there is has been several periods in the industary were pilots have been hired with very low times. Especially in the last year before Sept 11. Are you saying they don't deserve it? I can also back it up by saying that I know alot of Major airline pilots and they will all tell you that while some instructing time is good there comes a time where instructing will cause you to develope techniques that will cause you to fail out of your airline trainging.

 

[kevdog]

correct me if i am wrong, but aren't 99% of the low-timers hired right before 9/11 furloughed - gimp or not?

 

[flynryan15]

low timers

there are still plany of quote low time new hires at plenty of regional airlines

 

[kevdog]

OK, I must be wrong...sorry!

 

[flynryan15]

No Prob

Before Sept 11th the industary was expanding more then it could get pilots my old man use to tell me that boeing couldn't get the manuals to them quick enough to get guys trained. Small regional carriers were canceling flights because they didn't have enough pilots. The point I am trying to make is that certain people are cut out for this job and certain people are not. I don't think a majical number in the total time column of your log book makes you qualified or not.

 

[skootertrash]

SOunds good to me. Let the low time guys whore themselves for a job At MESA. Fukcing scumbags.

 

[flynryan15]

Mesa

Can on thread on this board go without bring Mesa into it.