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[Voice Of Reason]

....after all it's the pilots that actully create the end result of the company.

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I definitely wouldn't blame the pilots for THAT here!

 

[brokeflyer]

....after all it's the pilots that actully create the end result of the company.

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I definitely wouldn't blame the pilots for THAT here!

ill rephrase.....its the pilots that do all the work and then on top of that, have to fix all of management's dumba$s mistakes.

 

[skanza]

we all have those examples....

dont need a union if they would just pay what the job is worth OK OK OK!! I keep going back to this and none of you guys address it: Why did you accept the position if you thought the pay was not what you are worth?! Answer this, please!.....after all it's the pilots that actully create the end result of the company.

you're welcome

Saying you have examples...is not an example.
Again, list at least one solid example that proves the company's management wants to run an unsafe operation. Not your opinion, but a fact.

 

[skanza]

ill rephrase.....its the pilots that do all the work and then on top of that, have to fix all of management's dumba$s mistakes.

All of the work? Sure we do a lot of it, but not all. Get real, this is a fleet operation, not a 1-2 airplane 91 gig. We couldn't do our work without help, just like they couldn't have the planes flown without pilots.
Careful, your narcissism is starting to show...

 

[brokeflyer]

whatever dude.

you dont have a leg to stand on here and everyone knows it.

so keep diggin your own hole, we enjoy the entertainment.

 

[netjetwife]

That is soooo WRONG!! There's no doubt that the Options pilots hold the moral high ground and Ricci is a hypocrit!...

The only thing more disgusting is the suggestion that the under-paid (by a long shot!) Options pilots are being greedy. What a skummy thing to say! But very typical of those who spread FUD. Just step over the garbage and keep going, guys!! Here's my suggestion for a picket sign... front side.. PARITY FOR OPTIONS PILOTS NOW.... back side....UNDERPAID BY $55,000 AND COUNTING

 

[brokeflyer]

well, as long as skanza gets his...who cares about the pilots.

maybe they should start "going that extra mile" on the pre-flight check. After, you need to do what is right.

 

[fischman]

You'll have to give good, solid examples to prove that management wants to operate an unsafe operation. Just saying it isn't enough. And I don't think that's why a union was created - for safety - I think it's because of the greed of a bunch of type-A individuals who disguise their greed as being a concern for safety.

Like an ACP asking me to fly a broken airplane 2 different times? I have 2 specific examples but won't publish them for all to see. Union Steward was put on the line, and the airplane stayed put.

 

[netjetwife]

Flight Options PIC pay and SIC pay: The FLOPS know that paying far below the industry standard is a major factor in labor strife which causes stress and low morale which easily leads to distraction and fatigue.

 

[Dooker]

... you guys can't even phathom anything but a union being a good idea ...

Phag.

 

[ozpilot]

Phag.

Phunny stuff Dooker

 

[skanza]

Phag.

Oops! That is pretty funny.

 

[skanza]

Like an ACP asking me to fly a broken airplane 2 different times? I have 2 specific examples but won't publish them for all to see. Union Steward was put on the line, and the airplane stayed put.

PM me the tail # and what was broken if you'd like. I'm sure this is debatable.

 

[brokeflyer]

He's the PIC...there isnt anything to debate.

next?

 

[ozpilot]

He's the PIC...there isnt anything to debate.

next?

Yea really. They just don't get it.

The worst emergency they can have behind their desk is when they spill their cup of coffee.

 

[netjetwife]

Oz, you left out medical emergencies like paper cuts...

Seriously though, I do agree that the FLOPS seem stuck in the dark ages. Common sense and industry examples should tell them that the company would be much better off if they'd work with the pilots rather than against them. Those who are better at teamwork are most likely to weather a crisis like the current recession. Managers who ignore a resource and don't tap into available talent are leading the wrong direction. The Options pilots are doing the right thing by insisting on a course correction. Hang in there, guys!

 

[Fedmagnet]

Above FL350

If you do fly above FL350. Don't forget to call Cleveland for OXY service after landing each leg.
I hear getting Oxygen in some places is a real bugger.

If you fly above FL350 and land with full tanks, it could be a bust for both crew.

 

[Fedmagnet]

You'll have to give good, solid examples to prove that management wants to operate an unsafe operation. Just saying it isn't enough. And I don't think that's why a union was created - for safety - I think it's because of the greed of a bunch of type-A individuals who disguise their greed as being a concern for safety.

Someone please send me the best method to post a scanned 501 on this board and I will give management man/child Skumza all the examples that he and Ricci can stomach.

I will have to start a new thread called "Flight Options Request Examples of Illegal Operations" and fill it with the obvious illegal 501's along with heart warming explanations of scenarios surrounding the 501. Others can join in on the thread by adding their favorite ones.
Skumza the 501s should have enough detail for you, date, tail number, mechanics name, illegal sign off. Easy reading by anyone with good morals and a legitamate aviation background.

The FAA has turned a blind eye to the obvious violations made by Flops. They must be waiting for a body count before taking their job serious.

I'll be your Huckleberry!

 

[brokeflyer]

looks like skanza just got served.....


maybe you should'nt post anymore skanza, it just makes you look ignorant.

 

[Mike Jenvey]

<<<< Someone please send me the best method to post a scanned 501 on this board >>>>

I don't think you can post an image on FI as such, but if you register in a suitable name at PhotoBucket then you will be able to post a link (or links) here (from anything you up-load on PhotoBucket) that will take readers to your desired image(s)........